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Old 09-25-2009, 09:34 PM   #1
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Here's Napoles' 2nd fight with lightweight contender Alfredo Urbina.

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This was one of Napoles' biggest and best wins on the way up. Urbina had recorded a win over him only the year before, but Napoles made him pay for it big time. This is by far the most fiery and intense performance I've ever seen from him.

This may actually have been Napoles' peak right here. By the end of the year (after blowing out Urbina a second time) he had moved up to jr. welter and was rated as the #1 contender there, and would remain so for at least a year-and-a-half. For some reason, he never did get a shot at the title. Somehow, the next shot went to Carlos Hernandez, who Napoles had recently beaten, and he ended up winning the title (from Eddie Perkins). Hernandez made a couple of defenses and then lost to Sandro Lopopolo - all the while Napoles was still the #1 contender. Does anyone know the story of why Napoles didn't get a shot?
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:18 PM   #2
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My guess is that they were all scared shitless of Mantequilla...and you really can't blame them...oh man, he was unreal as a lightweight...nobody had the balls at that time, until poor Curtis Cokes finally gave him a shot at the welter crown in '69. Interesting footage also because it's before Jose grew that bandito mustache.
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:07 PM   #3
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Maybe it's just me but the film looks a little sped up.. could just be the speed of the fighters though...
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:26 PM   #4
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Maybe it's just me but the film looks a little sped up.. could just be the speed of the fighters though...
It looks like it's a bit inconsistent with the speed - it speeds up at moments, and then it's normal at moments.
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:27 PM   #5
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Naploes would have surely owned the 60s lightweight and light welter scene if he got his shot. I just cant see Ortiz/Laguana/Loche beating him despite their talents
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Naploes would have surely owned the 60s lightweight and light welter scene if he got his shot. I just cant see Ortiz/Laguana/Loche beating him despite their talents
As it is, he decisively beat successive champions, Eddie Perkins and Carlos Hernandez, right around the time they held their titles. Napoles was the #1 contender through both their reigns. It really is a strange situation.
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Old 09-26-2009, 07:21 AM   #7
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I did read a newspaper article in which Nicolino Locche claimed he wanted a fight with Napoles but that must have been at a later stage in their careers.

Napoles looks great here, thanks to My2Sense and Raging B(_)LL for making this footage available!
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:33 AM   #8
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Here's Napoles' 2nd fight with lightweight contender Alfredo Urbina.

Thanks to Raging B(_)LL for this footage:

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This was one of Napoles' biggest and best wins on the way up. Urbina had recorded a win over him only the year before, but Napoles made him pay for it big time. This is by far the most fiery and intense performance I've ever seen from him.

This may actually have been Napoles' peak right here. By the end of the year (after blowing out Urbina a second time) he had moved up to jr. welter and was rated as the #1 contender there, and would remain so for at least a year-and-a-half. For some reason, he never did get a shot at the title. Somehow, the next shot went to Carlos Hernandez, who Napoles had recently beaten, and he ended up winning the title (from Eddie Perkins). Hernandez made a couple of defenses and then lost to Sandro Lopopolo - all the while Napoles was still the #1 contender. Does anyone know the story of why Napoles didn't get a shot?

Looks goood there doesnt he?
I'm thinking maybe he didn't get his shot due to not having the right connections. Seems to me it all started happening for him when he started fighting in LA with George Parnassus promoting him. Parnassus had a bt of clout at the time. He was promoting or helping the likes of Rose, Olivares, even Harada. It was a golden period for the Inglewood forum
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saving this to watch after the FFN repeat

thanks for this
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:33 AM   #10
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Wow that was impressive!
Great bolos and uppercuts and very smooyh movement.
Can't shed any light to why he didn't get a shot at the lw. or jr.ww. titles.
I'll look into my Ring collection to see if a can find anything about it, though The Ring didn't write too much about hispanic fighters in those days.
The most amazing thing is that he had such a long and good reign as a champ while being over his best weight and a bit past his prime.
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Old 09-26-2009, 12:36 PM   #11
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Napoles only moved up because he could not get his shot at 135. Even Duran's management wanted no part of him .. He was that good.
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Napoles only moved up because he could not get his shot at 135. Even Duran's management wanted no part of him .. He was that good.
Napoles would have been like DeJesus on steroids for Duran.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:05 PM   #13
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wow

thats amazing

Napoles was so smooth there did Urbina even land on Napoles.

Napole was so measured he hardly missed even with uppercuts andbolos just everything perfect.

Loved the subtle feet movement that we didnt see alot of at Welterweight.

That reminded me of Wilfredo Gomez in how smooth he was in attack
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:06 PM   #14
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One of the very best fighters of all time.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:07 PM   #15
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Loved the subtle feet movement that we didnt see alot of at Welterweight.
That was always one of the best parts of his game.
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