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Old 09-26-2009, 02:48 PM   #16
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Can anything be said other than 'Wow'. This Napoles vs whichever version you think of as the best of 135lb Duran, would be a fight for the ages.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:57 PM   #17
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What makes this even more impressive is that Urbina was an accomplished fighter himself and had never been stopped previous to this bout. Napoles just destroyed him.
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:03 PM   #18
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What makes this even more impressive is that Urbina was an accomplished fighter himself and had never been stopped previous to this bout. Napoles just destroyed him.
That was one thing I wasn't sure about, being unfamiliar with Urbina. But fair play GreatA I'll go with what your saying. I think it's clear from watching Napoles at Welter (kinda' like watching Ray Robinson at Middle) that you can guesstimate how he would've been at a lower weight. I.e slightly faster, more mobile, power counts for more that kinda' thing.

But now I've seen him beat up a supposedly decent operator......
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:03 PM   #19
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It looks like it's a bit inconsistent with the speed - it speeds up at moments, and then it's normal at moments.
Either way thanks for the post.

Napoles was highly avoided he did not get his chance to fight for a title until people thought he was too old. He is my #1 ATG welterweight.
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:06 PM   #20
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Either way thanks for the post.

Napoles was highly avoided he did not get his chance to fight for a title until people thought he was too old. He is my #1 ATG welterweight.
Even over Ray Robinson?
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:07 PM   #21
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That was one thing I wasn't sure about, being unfamiliar with Urbina. But fair play GreatA I'll go with what your saying. I think it's clear from watching Napoles at Welter (kinda' like watching Ray Robinson at Middle) that you can guesstimate how he would've been at a lower weight. I.e slightly faster, more mobile, power counts for more that kinda' thing.

But now I've seen him beat up a supposedly decent operator......
Regardless of at what stage in their careers Urbina defeated them, wins over Jose Napoles, Eddie Perkins, Joe Brown, Chango Carmona and Lauro Salas should not be under-played.

Urbina has one of the better looking resumes if you discount his losses.
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:11 PM   #22
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Regardless of at what stage in their careers Urbina defeated them, wins over Jose Napoles, Eddie Perkins, Joe Brown, Chango Carmona, Chucho Garcia and Lauro Salas should not be under-played.

Urbina has one of the better looking resumes if you discount his losses.
No doubt. I'm not much of a Boxrec skimmer though in this instance it would be warranted. That is impressive and shows he wasn't a run of the mill contender. Thanks for adding some substance to what is already a very interesting and thought-provoking piece of footage.
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:30 PM   #23
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One of the very best fighters of all time.


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That was always one of the best parts of his game.
wow i musta been over excited i meant like his movement in general in taht fight he moved alot more and bounced around

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Can anything be said other than 'Wow'. This Napoles vs whichever version you think of as the best of 135lb Duran, would be a fight for the ages.
anyone who dosent say 'wow' deserves to be shot

just a thought here Napoles was a HUGE WW hitter imagine what his punches at LW were they must have been wrecking balls
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:32 PM   #24
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wow i musta been over excited i meant like his movement in general in taht fight he moved alot more and bounced around



anyone who dosent say 'wow' deserves to be shot

just a thought here Napoles was a HUGE WW hitter imagine what his punches at LW were they must have been wrecking balls

He was definitely a solid hitter at Welter with the capacity to do serious damage but I wouldn't say HUGE. Mind you, my interpretation of huge would be Hearns/Cuevas/Robinson (presumably, but not having seen any footage I add this note)

Damn good hitter, but at Lightweight he must be right up there. Looks to be a destroyer here.
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I think Napoles power at WW could be compared to SRRs power.

But lightweight holy cow, Napoles must a hit like a mule
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Old 09-26-2009, 05:11 PM   #26
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Ask Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez if Napoles could hit.
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Old 09-26-2009, 05:31 PM   #27
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RC i just watched that fight today what a KO punch
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:49 PM   #28
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Napoles looks absolutely lethal at lightweight. Great fighter...potentially the best at the weight.
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Old 09-27-2009, 06:08 PM   #29
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Here's Napoles' 2nd fight with lightweight contender Alfredo Urbina.

Thanks to Raging B(_)LL for this footage:

BORKED

This was one of Napoles' biggest and best wins on the way up. Urbina had recorded a win over him only the year before, but Napoles made him pay for it big time. This is by far the most fiery and intense performance I've ever seen from him.

This may actually have been Napoles' peak right here. By the end of the year (after blowing out Urbina a second time) he had moved up to jr. welter and was rated as the #1 contender there, and would remain so for at least a year-and-a-half. For some reason, he never did get a shot at the title. Somehow, the next shot went to Carlos Hernandez, who Napoles had recently beaten, and he ended up winning the title (from Eddie Perkins). Hernandez made a couple of defenses and then lost to Sandro Lopopolo - all the while Napoles was still the #1 contender. Does anyone know the story of why Napoles didn't get a shot?
Thanks again for the threads in general, and a lot for this one in particular. Definitely one of the best fighters ever. Look how he's so composed yet so energised and relentless at the same thime. What a fighter.
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Old 09-27-2009, 06:10 PM   #30
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Ask Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez if Napoles could hit.
That's the one where he cold ****s him when he Lopez has his back to him isn't it? I always forget which one it is. Even though his back's to him, he lands the ko blow perfectly clean no the chin if i remember correct.
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