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Old 09-18-2007, 07:00 PM   #1
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Default If Kessler Dominates Joe. What becomes of Joe's legacy?

I think its shit.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:03 PM   #2
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Yeah, he's ****ed legacy wise if dominated. It is really up in the air even if he gets beat, freakishly. Finally, if he wins its absolutley rock solid, and another big win could put him over the top.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:06 PM   #3
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Yeah, he's ****ed legacy wise if dominated. It is really up in the air even if he gets beat, freakishly. Finally, if he wins its absolutley rock solid, and another big win could put him over the top.
If Joe dominates Kessler, hes finally deserving of the p4p list
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:06 PM   #4
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Wont happen.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:06 PM   #5
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He would still be a top 10 super middleweight all time, but it would not be good for his legacy.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:06 PM   #6
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Default Re: If Kessler Dominates Joe. What becomes of Joe's legacy?

Calzaghe legacy will be shit even if he dominates Kessler.

Right after Kessler loses he become another overrated B-level fighter,
no better than Beyer or Lacy.

From the long standing point of view Joe need beat Jones/Hopkins/Woods.
After 20 years nobody will remember who Lacy or Kessler was.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:07 PM   #7
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He would still be a top 10 super middleweight all time, but it would not be good for his legacy.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:08 PM   #8
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Calzaghe legacy will be shit even if he dominates Kessler.

Right after Kessler loses he become another overrated B-level fighter,
no better than Beyer or Lacy.

From the long standing point of view Joe need beat Jones/Hopkins/Woods.
After 20 years nobody will remember who Lacy or Kessler was.
I know you're frustrated..
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:12 PM   #9
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Default Re: If Kessler Dominates Joe. What becomes of Joe's legacy?

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What do you mean with the 's?

If Calzaghe is dominated by Kessler, he will still be remembered as a top 10 super middleweight all time because of his unbeaten streak, his unification of the WBO and IBF titles, and the number of title defenses. However, he would be remembered by most as the guy with all the title defenses who was badly beaten by the best fighter he faced.

If he wins, he has a case to be the greatest at 168 - when looking at resumes, not head to head ability.

Just my 2 cents
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:16 PM   #10
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What brooklyn said really. JC still remained unbeaten throughout most of his career and more importantly - showed great skills in the process.. By skill and talent he will be remembered.

If this happens, its up to Kessler to secure JCs legacy even more.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:29 PM   #11
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If Kessler beats Joe at 35 in a close fight, it won't hurt Calzaghe's legacy that much, depending on how he lost and what Kessler goes on to achieve. Strangely, a win for an over the hill Calzaghe against a prime Kessler maybe hurts Calzaghe's legacy more as Kessler is open to being called another bum... a good B level boxer. I don't think Kessler is a B level boxer but you can see where I'm coming from. If the 35 year old Joe beats Mikkel clearly, Joe's resume will still lack a "proven champion" - a man who beat the man, if you will.

If Kessler dominates Calzaghe, I will be more surprised than seeing Kenya enter a last minute team into the world series and winning every game.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:32 PM   #12
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Well, he beat "The middleweight version of Prime Tyson", so he has had a career defining fight in the bag.

If he loses he can probably put it down to shotness, and so he cannot truly lose.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:32 PM   #13
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At 35 it won't hurt Calzaghe's legacy that much, depending on how he lost and what Kessler goes on to achieve. Strangely, a win for an over the hill Calzaghe against a prime Kessler maybe hurts Calzaghe's legacy more as Kessler is open to being called another bum... a good B level boxer. I don't think Kessler is a B level boxer but you can see where I'm coming from. If the 35 year old Joe beats Mikkel clearly, Joe's resume will still lack a "proven champion" - a man who beat the man, if you will.
True.. The worst will be to lose to Kess and Kess ends up with a barely above average career
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:33 PM   #14
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If he loses he can probably put it down to shotness, and so he cannot truly lose.

Calzaghe is nowhere near shot, that's apparant.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:34 PM   #15
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What do you mean with the 's?

If Calzaghe is dominated by Kessler, he will still be remembered as a top 10 super middleweight all time because of his unbeaten streak, his unification of the WBO and IBF titles, and the number of title defenses. However, he would be remembered by most as the guy with all the title defenses who was badly beaten by the best fighter he faced.

If he wins, he has a case to be the greatest at 168 - when looking at resumes, not head to head ability.

Just my 2 cents
theres no point explaining this to these pubescent teenagers.
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