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Old 08-16-2007, 09:29 PM   #1
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Default Did Marcanio duck Patterson?

Or avoid him in some way?

Floyd was coming on towards the end of Rocky's reign as champ... Did he retire with a potential reservation in facing Patterson?

Just wasn't worth the risk at that point in his career?
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:30 PM   #2
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:35 PM   #3
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Educated answer there, folks.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:05 PM   #4
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Default Re: Did Marcanio duck Patterson?

Patterson was not even in the top ten when Marciano retire in April of 56. It just seem Patterson came out of no were the movement the Rock retire, winning the tourment and beating Archie for the title.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:07 PM   #5
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Rockys brother Lou told me that Rocky was offered a lot of money to come out of retirement and fight Patterson and was seriously considering it until he got Ko'd by Johansen .Then he started to train for possibly challenging Johansen but that he just couldnt get into it like he used to he said he remembers his brother saying that even the odor of the gyms bothered him now.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:58 AM   #6
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Rocky would have KO'd Patterson. Floyd would have hit him a lot no doubt, but when Rocky finally hit that jaw it would be good night.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:14 AM   #7
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Default Re: Did Marcanio duck Patterson?

No.

As Dempsey1238 has stated, Floyd was not even a ranked contender when Marciano retired.
Incidentally, Rocky was offered 1.4 million to come out of retirement to fight Johansson, and for a while Rocky liked the idea.
He started losing weight and got back into the gym like the old days. He kept this up for about a month or so before calling it off. There are two versions of the story as to why he did so.

One is that Rocky's various business interests got in the way, and his interest in the fight petered out.
The other version, and probably the most realistic one, was that Marciano realised he simply didn't have it anymore and gave up the idea.

Even Marciano's retirement is shrouded in some mystery. Some say he retired because the daily grind of training was starting to get to him. He began to dislike the smell of the gym, and he stopped taking his walks in the evening as he always used to do without fail.
Charlie Goldman said to him one day "Rock, you're looking bloated lately." to which Marciano replied "I am Charlie, and I'm not walking anymore either." According to Goldman, he knew then and there that Marciano's desire had started to leave him.

Another story is that Rocky had been considering retirement for a while, and had discussions about it with his wife and family. Immediately after his fight with Moore, Rocky announced that he would fight on. However, he went on vacation to South America with his wife, and on returning changed his mind.

Lastly, some say that he retired in order to get out of the clutches of Al Weill, his domineering manager. Rocky had developed a burning resentment against Weill for being an obsessive control freak (Weill once even ordered Rocky to buy him a packet of cigars in front of a reporter) and for skimming some extra off the top of Marciano's purses.

Whichever version is correct, Marciano didn't retire to avoid Floyd Patterson.

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Old 08-17-2007, 05:46 AM   #8
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Default Re: Did Marcanio duck Patterson?

Given Pattersons choice of opponents when he was champion and still with D'Amato, i'd say it would've been the other way around.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:07 AM   #9
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Floyd was coming on towards the end of Rocky's reign as champ... Did he retire with a potential reservation in facing Patterson?


Yes. Marciano preferred fighting old men instead of gettin KOed as an old mummy.
Patterson was an interesting prospect in '55, one year later he even KOed Archie Moore in 5. Marciano needed 9 rounds to kill the oldtimer.
Floyd would've KTFOed Marciano within 8 rounds.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:09 AM   #10
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Yes. Marciano preferred fighting old men instead of gettin KOed as an old mummy.
Patterson was an interesting prospect in '55, one year later he even KOed Archie Moore in 5. Marciano needed 9 rounds to kill the oldtimer.
Floyd would've KTFOed Marciano within 8 rounds.
Your post is pretty funny. Only for all the wrong reasons.

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Old 08-17-2007, 06:24 AM   #11
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:28 AM   #12
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Heīs totally right...
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:32 AM   #13
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Yes,Marciano ducked Patterson.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:33 AM   #14
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Floyd would've KTFOed Marciano within 8 rounds.
With a shotgun maybe.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:35 AM   #15
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Marciano didnīt duck Patterson, when Rocky retired, Floyd was only a prospect, if he would have fought him at that point, everyone would say now that he fought a kiddie...

btw, Marciano is for Floyd a very bad matchup, he is the one who would get KTFO...
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