muscle

[JMonster]

what does everybody think is the most important muscle for increasing power? and for speed?

[JMonster]

or the best exercise i guess

[gregsid]

Most power for punches comes from the legs, the rest from upperbody (back, shoulders, arms). Really the whole body is used in a single punch, if thrown properly that is.
It takes hard training and lots of fighting experience, to really increase power.
Don't think by going to the gym and lifting a few weights will do anything.

[Relentless]

there isn't a single muscle which increases punching power.

[viru§™]

If you want to become really strong the best thing you can do is push cars

[JMonster]

i know that...this is sorta like a poll...like which is the most important...cus i've heard plenty of people on here saying to people, "why would u do that exercise? that has no benefit to a boxer" so if people wanna talk bad about certain ones, let's talk about the good ones too...i personally belive that for speed and maybe even power that 2 important parts of the body r the lats. and also the whole back/torso/stomach

[scott c]

I think alot of people on here train like bod builders and are more about immage than anything else.

I think exercises that encompase the whole body are most usful due to the biomechanical requirements of a punch. They would be you cleans , jerks and snatch exercises. Then on a more specific note I do bench , latt pull down , bent over row and for legs i do front squats , leg press and one leged leg press. 6 reps of each at my 6rep max.

Hearing people talking about incline bench press or bicep and tricep workouts sems abit daft to me. And counterproductive.

The back is very important though as an injury there can really mess you up. Im contemplating adding seated row to my routiene. Im going to have a feweeks trial doing that as well to see how it goes.

Specific exercises like cable pulls etc should only be done if there is a specific weakness I think. But thats just my opinion and i don't know alot abut actual boxing. But iv been lifting for along time in other sports and it seems to be the same regardless of sport as it is conditioning an athlete and should not be the main focus.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by scott c

I think alot of people on here train like bod builders and are more about immage than anything else.

I think exercises that encompase the whole body are most usful due to the biomechanical requirements of a punch. They would be you cleans , jerks and snatch exercises. Then on a more specific note I do bench , latt pull down , bent over row and for legs i do front squats , leg press and one leged leg press. 6 reps of each at my 6rep max.

Hearing people talking about incline bench press or bicep and tricep workouts sems abit daft to me. And counterproductive.

The back is very important though as an injury there can really mess you up. Im contemplating adding seated row to my routiene. Im going to have a feweeks trial doing that as well to see how it goes.

Specific exercises like cable pulls etc should only be done if there is a specific weakness I think. But thats just my opinion and i don't know alot abut actual boxing. But iv been lifting for along time in other sports and it seems to be the same regardless of sport as it is conditioning an athlete and should not be the main focus.

In my opinion only bodybuilders or people who are recovering from an injury should use isolation lifts, and that includes using machines.

Your body has evolved as a unit, train it as one.

[gregsid]

Originally Posted by viru§™

In my opinion only bodybuilders or people who are recovering from an injury should use isolation lifts, and that includes using machines.

Your body has evolved as a unit, train it as one.

I agree with this.

[scott c]

I agree. ONly machines i use are lat pull down and may be using the seated row as we have a very good one at our gym. Its single arm and on pivots rather than your tipicle dual handle job and I have had back problems. I also use those elastic things for my shoulder atm as iv pulled two muscles in my rotator cuff holding pads but il swop that for shoulder press and then lifting the weight right above my head in snatch etc like I was doing before unjury.

Whats everyones veiws on lunges?

I used them alot in rehab and to strengthen VM controling Gluteals but I dont use them as part of actual training. Views would be appreciated.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by scott c

I agree. ONly machines i use are lat pull down and may be using the seated row as we have a very good one at our gym. Its single arm and on pivots rather than your tipicle dual handle job and I have had back problems. I also use those elastic things for my shoulder atm as iv pulled two muscles in my rotator cuff holding pads but il swop that for shoulder press and then lifting the weight right above my head in snatch etc like I was doing before unjury.

Can you do pull/chin-ups? If you can, why are you doing lat pulldown?

Whats everyones veiws on lunges?

Lunges are by far one of the most underated bodyweight exercises out there.

i know that...this is sorta like a poll

Where's that poll? Would be good idea.

[gregsid]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Can you do pull/chin-ups? If you can, why are you doing lat pulldown?


Lunges are by far one of the most underated bodyweight exercises out there.

Again, I agree with this. In my opinion machines are useless.
They isolate one muscle group and forget about the rest of the body.
Calisentics and that's it. Only time you should incorperate weights is when your adding them you your calisenic workout (example, pullups with weighted vest, pushups with weighted vest, blah blah ect.)
Again this is my opinion and its worked very well for me and my students.

[lenzo]

Cardio, breathing. Long hard uphill runs for the legs. Sidesteps for strong ankles.
Without stance and balance, all the upper body power in the world wont hold you up. Remember what Hagler did to Hearns!

[scott c]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Can you do pull/chin-ups? If you can, why are you doing lat pulldown?


Lunges are by far one of the most underated bodyweight exercises out there.

DOing lat pull down due to the nature of my shoulder injury. One of the effected muscles hits the top of the scapular and gets inflamed when doing chin ups , pull up , press up etc. Because lat pull down is alsmost a reverse in contractions to chin ups its ok to do atm.

I keep it in my session though as I try to stay away from high rep exercises where possible due to te risk of overuse being greater for me personally than the gains in strength. Chin ups are mostly done in my circuits.

What about doing lunges at 6 rep max with a bar in front squat possition? OR walking 6 strides? Too risky at this weight? Have you tried it?