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[GazOC]

Mannion holds a quite a few decent wins and had a very good run in America.

Heres one for you Doug from around the same time, Terry Christie. An Irish fighter who fought out of Boston, trained with the Petronellis ended up with (something like) a 13-0-1 record then went back to Ireland to become a Doctor.

[bennie]

Originally Posted by doug.ie

ah, bennie...you know everything.

right...how about an old favourite of mine from over here...but he used to box in america...i dont expect you may know much about him, but he really is the forgotten man of irish boxing...and overlooked way too much when lists of irish boxers are made...
sean mannion.

he fought mike mccallum for the wba middleweight title in 84...also beat future world champ in' chuel-beak...

the whole country was flying flags here and it was on tv /radio ever hour in the week leading up to mc guigan v pedroza...but a year earlier no-one even knew about the galway man boxing for the middleweight title.

i've met sean and had a good chat with him in 2006 and he looked worse for wear, like punces took their toll, he was telling me when he and steve collins used to spar a lot in boston....i spoke to him on the phone this year and he sounds much improved healthwise....i'd like him to show up at bunceys show in dublin next month.

i do understand that by boxing all his fights in america, then you couldnt expect the public to know much bout him, but i expected the media should have made more of him.

you know much about him bennie ?

Busy, brave, incredibly durable guy who took McCallum the full 15 rounds and made "The Body Snatcher" look quite ordinary. Sean lacked power but some say he actually wobbled McCallum at one point in their fight (I've never seen the fight) and he had the style to trouble the big punchers, such as Baek.
He lost a one-sided decision to Errol Christie here (Christie could beat anyone who couldn't punch) and Gary Guiden found a weakness in his armour (which McCallum surprisingly failed to capatalise on) when he stopped Sean with body shots.
Otherwise, Sean had a fine career and was a model pro.

[bennie]

Originally Posted by GazOC

Mannion holds a quite a few decent wins and had a very good run in America.

Heres one for you Doug from around the same time, Terry Christie. An Irish fighter who fought out of Boston, trained with the Petronellis ended up with (something like) a 13-0-1 record then went back to Ireland to become a Doctor.

Terry's brother, Joe, beat Frank Bruno as an amateur although Bruno hammered him in a rematch.

[doug.ie]

Originally Posted by GazOC

Mannion holds a quite a few decent wins and had a very good run in America.

Heres one for you Doug from around the same time, Terry Christie. An Irish fighter who fought out of Boston, trained with the Petronellis ended up with (something like) a 13-0-1 record then went back to Ireland to become a Doctor.

amazing.


there's a fella tommy taylor....i remember him fighting kaylor and he had kaylor down twice...
you remember him bennie ?

[turpinr]

bennie ,do you remember frankie lucas.

[doug.ie]

Originally Posted by turpinr

bennie ,do you remember frankie lucas.

fought sibbo in early 80's for british title ?...right ?

[turpinr]

Originally Posted by doug.ie

fought sibbo in early 80's for british title ?...right ?

yes.i think he fought minter and kevin finnegan too.

[davidjay]

Was it Frankie Lucas who got passed over for the British Commonwealth Games team and fought for St Vincent (or somewhere like that), winning the gold?

[bennie]

Originally Posted by doug.ie

amazing.


there's a fella tommy taylor....i remember him fighting kaylor and he had kaylor down twice...
you remember him bennie ?

Tommy "Buck" Taylor was a good puncher but esentially limited . I bumped into him once on a Euston train and he was drinking a can at around 9.00am. He was on his way to to the oil rigs in the Middle East where he mde a good living underwater as a former Royal Navy diver dealing with the barnacles gathering on rig stantions. Did he floor Kaylor twice? From my recollection it was the other way round. Kaylor outclassed him.

[turpinr]

Originally Posted by davidjay

Was it Frankie Lucas who got passed over for the British Commonwealth Games team and fought for St Vincent (or somewhere like that), winning the gold?

yes

[turpinr]

Originally Posted by bennie

Tommy "Buck" Taylor was a good puncher but esentially limited . I bumped ino him once on a Euston train and he was drinking a can at around 9,00am. He was on his way to to the oil rigs in the Middle East where he mde a good living underwater as a former Royal Navy diver dealing with the barnacles gathering on rig stantions. Did he floor Kaylor twice? From my recollection it was the other way round. Kaylor outclassed him.

do you remember a fighter from liverpool named shoemaker ,he was a royal navy diver too

[bennie]

Originally Posted by davidjay

Was it Frankie Lucas who got passed over for the British Commonwealth Games team and fought for St Vincent (or somewhere like that), winning the gold?

That's right. He beat the England man Carl Speare in ths semis and went on to win gold . Lucas was an animal whom Minter avoided. He was possibly past his best when Sibbo, on his 21st birthday, essentially finished him in one of the greatest domestic battles ever seen in this counrty.
Man, it was war!

[turpinr]

Originally Posted by bennie

That's right. He beat the England man Carl Speare in ths semis and went on to won gold . Lucas was an animal whom Minter avoided. He was possibly past his best when Sibbo, on his 21st birthday, essentially finished him in one of the greatest domestic battles ever seen in this counrty.
Man., it was war!

he wasn't called widman for nowt was he

[bennie]

Originally Posted by turpinr

do you remember a fighter from liverpool named shoemaker ,he was a royal navy diver too

That would be Brian Schumacher, one of the nicest guys you could ever wish to meet and a fantastic boxer-puncher. Brian hammered fellow Scouse Jimmy Price on the way to the ABA middleweight title in 1981 and won several other ABA titles, although he was always a bit chinny and it found him out as a pro against Tony Wilson in two wars for the British light-heavyweight title.

[turpinr]

Originally Posted by bennie

That would be Brian Schumacher, one of the nicest guys you could ever wish to meet and a fantastic boxer-puncher. Brian hammered fellow Scouse Jimmy Price on the way to the ABA middleweight title in 1981 and won several other ABA titles, although he was always a bit chinny and it found him out as a pro against Tony Wilson in two wars for the British light-heavyweight title.

the same.he boxed for thingwall hall.i remember jimmy price too,he was boxing at york house and holy name when i knew him.