Boxing someone with a tight guard?

Gavin · 10-20-2009, 01:03 PM

I.e. hands glued to face like Winky, Abraham etc.

Anyone know a good way to deal with this? I'm tall for my weight so its hard to go for the body without leaving myself open plus a lot of the guys who use this guard keep their elbows in tight as well. I was thinking of just keeping them on the Jab and waiting for them to lead before Countering but if there's any other ways I'd appreciate hearing them.

achillesthegreat · 10-20-2009, 01:05 PM

through it or around it. good shot selection depending on how their are covering up.

10-20-2009, 01:59 PM

Yes, the squirrel tight guard is very effective.

Bazooka · 10-20-2009, 02:35 PM

You have to create openings, 3 or 4 shots at a time not the same shots neither mix them up, top to bottom and visa versa... hit anything he gives you even biceps beleive if you hit them biceps enough his arms will come down...

paloalto00 · 10-20-2009, 04:25 PM

I actually prefer to fight people with a tight guard, because most likely they tend to cover up on basic shots. So throw a jab to see if they start covering up, and if they do... just unload

10-20-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by paloalto00

... just unload

Where?

That was his ques, man.

ChrisPontius · 10-20-2009, 06:10 PM

It's hard to deal with, but there are some things you can do. For one, counter punching is always an option. He can't stay in his shell while punching. Second, if you know he's covering up, do mix in a bodyshot. Somewhat looping right hand is easiest to land; you can lay off the liver hook if you think it's too risky with you being tall.

Also, paw every now and then with the jab. I do it against every kind of opponent and it's a great way to become a bit more unpredictable, forcing them to keep their guard up and basically keep them on their toes, figuratively.

Gavin · 10-20-2009, 07:02 PM

Would any of you guys recommend the right hook to the head after a Jab (around his guard), rather then the traditional cross, seems to be the only opening there sometimes but never hear anyone talking about it so I'm wondering if its any use?

Vantage_West · 10-20-2009, 08:09 PM

if his hands are not in a position to throw then let them your hands go and let them scorch the air.

if he isnt throwing and you are you will get a benifit of the doubt....i'm unsure whether outside or inside, depends. if they a puss fighter who pops a jab and bops away in the case of danger then i would say roll through him or box him if he is trying to do a clottey/abe coem foreward wait a bit then......bang, bang, bang

paloalto00 · 10-20-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KTFO

Where?

That was his ques, man.

Body, or step to the side and carry on. When they fold like that they won't be able to see very well

ChrisPontius · 10-21-2009, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Would any of you guys recommend the right hook to the head after a Jab (around his guard), rather then the traditional cross, seems to be the only opening there sometimes but never hear anyone talking about it so I'm wondering if its any use?

Yeah, sometimes it's recommendable because the right hook isn't used that much and he's probably preparing for a straight right hand to come.

At any rate, variation is always good. Still, if you can land a right hook to the head, then you can also land a liverhook/uppercut.

Gavin · 10-21-2009, 07:47 PM

Do you think throwing the right uppercut through his guard after the Jab is a good idea, when I'm at mid-range. Or should it be kept strictly a short-range punch? (What about the left uppercut as well? Could I use that at mid-range?)

Bodi · 10-21-2009, 08:03 PM

The key is to get your opponent to move his/her hands - you have to 'entice' them to move their hands. If they won't move their hands, what's the point of throwing punches - you might as well back off and let them come out of their shell! If you are fighting a defensive natured fighter, the worst thing that you can do is try to impose your will on them!

Think angles, levels, range, feints etc. Mix it up, draw them out of their shell and capatilise when they do.

thejokerswild · 10-21-2009, 08:15 PM

Bodis got it. also you can literally pull their hands away on the inside. remembering to keep a tight guard yourself.

RightHooker · 10-21-2009, 09:03 PM

Punch with a vertical fist and bust right through their guard haha.

Works in sparring where most people wears gloves that are more umm... rectangle shaped I guess. In fights we usually use Top Ten brand gloves and they are more circular and are about the same size width and height so there's no benefit to turning your fist vertical.

But the fight gloves are also smaller so you can't really cover the front and side of your head at the same time like you can with big 16oz sparring gloves. There's always an opening somewhere. You just have to be patient to find it, or set something up to make a better opening.

10-20-2009, 01:03 PM	#1
Gavin Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 116 vCash: 1000	Boxing someone with a tight guard? I.e. hands glued to face like Winky, Abraham etc. Anyone know a good way to deal with this? I'm tall for my weight so its hard to go for the body without leaving myself open plus a lot of the guys who use this guard keep their elbows in tight as well. I was thinking of just keeping them on the Jab and waiting for them to lead before Countering but if there's any other ways I'd appreciate hearing them.
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10-20-2009, 01:05 PM	#2
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paloalto00 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7,178 vCash: 347	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? I actually prefer to fight people with a tight guard, because most likely they tend to cover up on basic shots. So throw a jab to see if they start covering up, and if they do... just unload
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ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 11,749 vCash: 238	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? It's hard to deal with, but there are some things you can do. For one, counter punching is always an option. He can't stay in his shell while punching. Second, if you know he's covering up, do mix in a bodyshot. Somewhat looping right hand is easiest to land; you can lay off the liver hook if you think it's too risky with you being tall. Also, paw every now and then with the jab. I do it against every kind of opponent and it's a great way to become a bit more unpredictable, forcing them to keep their guard up and basically keep them on their toes, figuratively.
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Gavin Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 116 vCash: 1000	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? Would any of you guys recommend the right hook to the head after a Jab (around his guard), rather then the traditional cross, seems to be the only opening there sometimes but never hear anyone talking about it so I'm wondering if its any use?
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Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 黒人文化の恋人のサンプリ Posts: 18,790 vCash: 1500	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? if his hands are not in a position to throw then let them your hands go and let them scorch the air. if he isnt throwing and you are you will get a benifit of the doubt....i'm unsure whether outside or inside, depends. if they a puss fighter who pops a jab and bops away in the case of danger then i would say roll through him or box him if he is trying to do a clottey/abe coem foreward wait a bit then......bang, bang, bang
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Gavin Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 116 vCash: 1000	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? Do you think throwing the right uppercut through his guard after the Jab is a good idea, when I'm at mid-range. Or should it be kept strictly a short-range punch? (What about the left uppercut as well? Could I use that at mid-range?)
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Bodi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 914 vCash: 1000	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? The key is to get your opponent to move his/her hands - you have to 'entice' them to move their hands. If they won't move their hands, what's the point of throwing punches - you might as well back off and let them come out of their shell! If you are fighting a defensive natured fighter, the worst thing that you can do is try to impose your will on them! Think angles, levels, range, feints etc. Mix it up, draw them out of their shell and capatilise when they do. Last edited by Bodi; 10-21-2009 at 08:22 PM.
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10-21-2009, 08:15 PM	#14
thejokerswild P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 18,179 vCash: 75	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? Bodis got it. also you can literally pull their hands away on the inside. remembering to keep a tight guard yourself.
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10-21-2009, 09:03 PM	#15
RightHooker Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 540 vCash: 1000	Re: Boxing someone with a tight guard? Punch with a vertical fist and bust right through their guard haha. Works in sparring where most people wears gloves that are more umm... rectangle shaped I guess. In fights we usually use Top Ten brand gloves and they are more circular and are about the same size width and height so there's no benefit to turning your fist vertical. But the fight gloves are also smaller so you can't really cover the front and side of your head at the same time like you can with big 16oz sparring gloves. There's always an opening somewhere. You just have to be patient to find it, or set something up to make a better opening.
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