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Old 09-22-2007, 12:47 AM   #31
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The same Joe Calzaghe who recently struggled against Saiko Bika?

Let's use the same standard across the board. You sure like to excuse the flaws of your guy while talking shit about other fighters.
Yes, a Calzaghe who had the poorest training camp in recent history, the same Calzaghe who has a history of being hot and cold when it comes to matches.

Mosely was well trained and prepared for Vargas, there is the difference.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:50 AM   #32
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Mosley is an old vet, and he lost to guys that were terrible style match-ups for him, and guys who are naturally bigger than him. He's still very highly skilled, and packs a good punch.

This next fight for Mosley will highlight how much he has left, but I think it's a passing of the torch fight, as I think Cotto will out youth him.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:52 AM   #33
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I'm seek and tired hering how bad Andrade is, he has a lot of power, chin of granite, how many can stand for the pressure?
I'ts looks like a looser is just a bum, thats not fair!
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:54 AM   #34
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Andrade isn't terrible, but he was very untested going in against Kessler in unfamiliar and hostile turf.

Andrade is what he is, which isn't an A level fighter.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:54 AM   #35
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Kessler has beaten 6 former or holding champs - and not only did he beat them - he sent them to school for Kesslian reformation.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:57 AM   #36
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Andrade isn't terrible, but he was very untested going in against Kessler in unfamiliar and hostile turf.

Andrade is what he is, which isn't an A level fighter.
Anyone is untested until they meet their first elite. Kessler, himself fights as good abroad as on home turf.

Andrade is b+, and would take down Taylor, and go life and death with Pavlik.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:58 AM   #37
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I'll give him Beyer as a good win, but it's a fading Beyer.

Lucas was shot, Mundine and Siaca are decent wins.

It's not a bad resume, but he ain't elite yet.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:58 AM   #38
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Anyone is untested until they meet their first elite. Kessler, himself fights as good abroad as on home turf.

Andrade is b+, and would take down Taylor, and go life and death with Pavlik.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:59 AM   #39
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Andrade is b+, and would take down Taylor, and go life and death with Pavlik.
He also fights a weight class above, so what the **** is your point?
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:00 AM   #40
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Andrade is insanely overrated around here. He would take down Taylor?

I hate JT as much as the next man, but he would obliterate Andrade. The guy is nothing but a iron-chinned punching bag. Taylor would shut him out.
Shows what you know.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:01 AM   #41
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Anyone is untested until they meet their first elite. Kessler, himself fights as good abroad as on home turf.

Andrade is b+, and would take down Taylor, and go life and death with Pavlik.


You dont know that. Stop pulling stuff out your ass. Jermain would give any other the elite MWs and SMW a hard time. So enough with all the bias bullshit. The man is not 27-0-1 for nothing.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:03 AM   #42
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Andrade is insanely overrated around here. He would take down Taylor?

I hate JT as much as the next man, but he would obliterate Andrade. The guy is nothing but a iron-chinned punching bag. Taylor would shut him out.
Maybe so, but it'll take a lot of power to keep him away!
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:05 AM   #43
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What I know is Andrade has no boxing skills. Whatsoever. He punches in slow-motion. He couldnt land a punch on a cardboard cutout of Taylor
More idiocy.

He throws a lot of punches, has an endless tank of stamina and pressure's very effectively and never relentless, if Ouma can drive Taylor to the ropes, what's a bigger man with longer reach and equally effective pressuring with power and size going to do?

Use your head, Taylor doesn't have Kessler's speed, power or defence and would get KTFO.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:06 AM   #44
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You dont know that. Stop pulling stuff out your ass. Jermain would give any other the elite MWs and SMW a hard time. So enough with all the bias bullshit. The man is not 27-0-1 for nothing.
Well, I don't consider Pavlik 'elite' and never will most likely, seeing as he lacks the necessary fundamentals and ability to compete with guys on the true elite level, but he will in fact KTFO Jermain Taylor.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:09 AM   #45
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I'll give him Beyer as a good win, but it's a fading Beyer.

Lucas was shot, Mundine and Siaca are decent wins.

It's not a bad resume, but he ain't elite yet.
Yet you think that Freitas was a good win for Diaz?

What makes you say that Lucas was shot? He lost a split decision vs Beyer, and then only lost to hardhitter Green - till he met Kessler.

Nonetheless, all of them has been made a fool of - like no one else have done.
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