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Old 09-22-2007, 12:44 AM   #1
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Default Anybody remember Jukka Jarvinen?

A Finnish heavyweight that found his way into the book "Rocky Lives" by going 17-0 and then losing to 2-5 journeyman Petr Hrivnak in two rounds. Anybody even recall the fight or was it too obscure?
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:56 AM   #2
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Järvinen had ok skills but had no serious power. KO loss in round 1 to Tony Halme about tells it all. Still, I´d call him a boxer, not a journeyman. At his peak, Järvinen was maybe even good enough for some EU rank list or so... but he fought some terrible fights too.
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Old 09-22-2007, 07:30 PM   #3
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Järvinen had ok skills but had no serious power. KO loss in round 1 to Tony Halme about tells it all. Still, I´d call him a boxer, not a journeyman. At his peak, Järvinen was maybe even good enough for some EU rank list or so... but he fought some terrible fights too.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:59 AM   #4
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In my eyes Järvinen was terrible. He got knocked out several times already in the amateur ranks. Järvinen had the worst china-chin that I have ever seen. Every time someone just touched his chin, he was badly hurt or went down. And I do mean EVERY time. And the guy had no survivor-insting either. When he was hurt he always got also knocked out.

Järvinen had no offence. He was a pure countrer puncher. All that he did do in his fights was that stood there and waited his to do a mistake. He did not have any KO-power (he did not stop anyone (not even 0-14,(12 by KO Mikhail Nikitin) from 1996-2005), but he had some stiff punches and most of all he looked great. He had a great body, so most of his opponents was afread of him. Some of his opponents did not know that all they had to was to land one punch at his chin and the muscular man would cramble. Järvinen was a left handed and I bet that he had a akward style. He looked great and made no offence. So, the opponent had to start all the action. Järvinen won many of his fight simply becouse his opponent did not do anything. 90% of his fights were very boring. Usually both boxers throw about 1-2 punches per a round .
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:06 AM   #5
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At his peak, Järvinen was maybe even good enough for some EU rank list or so...
For what I saw there was no way that he would had ever beat someone from EBU:s EU list...

Englishman Pele Reid is the last ranked (20th) heavyweight in European Union rankings... And I would bet my life that even todays over the hill Reid would stop Järvinen inside 3 rounds. And also other guys in the list would beat Järvinen. No doubt about it.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:13 AM   #6
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In my eyes Järvinen was terrible. He got knocked out several times already in the amateur ranks. Järvinen had the worst china-chin that I have ever seen. Every time someone just touched his chin, he was badly hurt or went down. And I do mean EVERY time. And the guy had no survivor-insting either. When he was hurt he always got also knocked out.

Järvinen had no offence. He was a pure countrer puncher. All that he did do in his fights was that stood there and waited his to do a mistake. He did not have any KO-power (he did not stop anyone (not even 0-14,(12 by KO Mikhail Nikitin) from 1996-2005), but he had some stiff punches and most of all he looked great. He had a great body, so most of his opponents was afread of him. Some of his opponents did not know that all they had to was to land one punch at his chin and the muscular man would cramble. Järvinen was a left handed and I bet that he had a akward style. He looked great and made no offence. So, the opponent had to start all the action. Järvinen won many of his fight simply becouse his opponent did not do anything. 90% of his fights were very boring. Usually both boxers throw about 1-2 punches per a round .
Maybe it's late, but I almost pissed myself laughing at this post.

I have never heard of Jarvinnen (sp?), btw.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:39 AM   #7
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The more well known Järvinen from Finland is a cross-country ski manufacturing company. I don't know if they're in business either these days
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:18 AM   #8
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Järvinen is here in the right:

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His opponent is Vladislav Druso.
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Excellent stuff Toney. Can u tell me about the Hrivnak fight? Do u remember it?
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:10 PM   #10
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Hrivnak was actually an ok amateur. Twice in the olympic quarterfinal losin to Bowe and Nielsen. He was rated top10 in the world as an amateur several times. Jarvinens record is extremely padded though.

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Old 09-25-2007, 03:00 AM   #11
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Hrivnak was actually an ok amateur. Twice in the olympic quarterfinal losin to Bowe and Nielsen. He was rated top10 in the world as an amateur several times. Jarvinens record is extremely padded though.

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Perfect example of how a good amateur background doesn't necessarily translate into success in the pro ranks. Henry Tillman and Tyrell Biggs are other good examples.
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:18 AM   #12
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The more well known Järvinen from Finland is a cross-country ski manufacturing company. I don't know if they're in business either these days
Even MORE well known Järvinen was Albert Järvinen (R.I.P.).
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By the way, no one needs to beat anyone from some list to be on it. About 80% of the fighters on EBU or EU lists haven´t fought the other guys from those lists. Look at John Duddy, he hasn´t beat ANYBODY and yet he´s placed well on world lists, and I mean ANYBODY because he´s like 4th or 5th challenger to PAVLIK now. Jukka Järvinen could have made it on EU list by winning some decent wins more instead of falling to Halme and that one guy who beat him before that. He could have been schooled by Pele Reid and yet that does not mean anything considering him being on that list.
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:23 PM   #14
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By the way, no one needs to beat anyone from some list to be on it. About 80% of the fighters on EBU or EU lists haven´t fought the other guys from those lists. Look at John Duddy, he hasn´t beat ANYBODY and yet he´s placed well on world lists, and I mean ANYBODY because he´s like 4th or 5th challenger to PAVLIK now. Jukka Järvinen could have made it on EU list by winning some decent wins more instead of falling to Halme and that one guy who beat him before that. He could have been schooled by Pele Reid and yet that does not mean anything considering him being on that list.
Does anybody actually have the fight with Jarvinen and Hrivnak? That's what I want to know.
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By the way, no one needs to beat anyone from some list to be on it. About 80% of the fighters on EBU or EU lists haven´t fought the other guys from those lists. Look at John Duddy, he hasn´t beat ANYBODY and yet he´s placed well on world lists, and I mean ANYBODY because he´s like 4th or 5th challenger to PAVLIK now. Jukka Järvinen could have made it on EU list by winning some decent wins more instead of falling to Halme and that one guy who beat him before that. He could have been schooled by Pele Reid and yet that does not mean anything considering him being on that list.
Who gives a **** about listings if the guy don´t earn his place there. And Mr. Pertti Augustin from Finland is working the EBU ratings. So you think that someone that have seen Järvinen would rank him anywhere? No ****ing way.

BTW did you know that Järvinen have actually been ranked #2 in the world! And that was few years after his "prime".

"Jukka Järvinen could have made it on EU list by winning some decent wins more " --> WTF? Järvinen never had no decent wins. Järvinen himself has said in many interviews that his best win is over Jack Jackson, who was 1-11 at the time. That just tells all abour Mr. Järvinen. He needed a terrible hometown decision to get a win over 2-6 Ladislav Husarik. There was no way that Järvinen could had got any "more decent wins".
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