Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever - Page 3

lenzo · 09-23-2007, 12:54 AM

Kosta was a great fighter but I wouldn't call him the best P4P of all time. I give that distinction to the old Roberto Duran when he was a lightweight.

Nico · 09-23-2007, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtime9

what you missed the vince philips fight

You must have missed him going undefeated for a decade following that fight, beating some very good fighters, and unifying the division.

Toopretty · 09-30-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by anton

you havent followed boxing for long have you? kostya in his prime would crush floyd he loved chasing down feather fisted fairys like floyd and crushing them.

Guys who get knocked the fuck out on there feet by journeyman like Vince Phillips can never or will never be put over top of Floyd Mayweather.....dumb asss

a doyyy... a duhhh

Beatboxer · 09-30-2007, 12:21 PM

what does that make vince phillips then

gatorage · 10-01-2007, 06:50 AM

I'm not sure ... but I think the Angelo Dundee comment was actually a statement he made after seeing Tszyu as an amateur. He said an amateur Tszyu was the best boxer he had ever seen.

I don't think the statement was regarding Tszyu's professional career.

And Tszyu had a chance against anyone. He NEVER had problems with boxers or speed. If you let him set his feet you were in trouble. The guys that gave Tszyu hard fights like Lopez, Urkal, Phillips and Hatton all came forward and kept Tszyu backpedalling. Both losses were still competitive. Mayweather doesn't have that style. He would give Tszyu ever chance to pick and choose his shots which never ended well for the boxers Tszyu faced.

It's a 50/50 fight but I lean towards Tszyu. I've seen all his fights and he was never outboxed.

grouch · 10-01-2007, 08:28 AM

Kosta was never a hype job and hardly had a chance to be in the mega fight! That reflects on his achievements in a negative way. He shouldn't have lost to Phillips I guess.

Both DLH and Mosley skipped 140lb, these two fights would make Kosta an ATG. Kosta would definitely beat Mosley and would have a good chance at DLH.

As of Mayweather fight all indicators point at Kosta's relatively easy win. He's always done well against cuties.

mattress · 10-01-2007, 09:06 AM

Both PBF and KT are/were great, great fighters but neither are anywhere near the best of all time.

Sonny Carson · 10-01-2007, 10:06 AM

Kostya was overrated he never beat anybody great and got knocked out by Vince Phillips. He never could fight anybody who pressured him(Phillips and Hatton). Aaron Pryor and Julio Cesar Chavez would kill him in there primes.

dangerousity · 10-01-2007, 11:12 AM

Based on resume I dont think you can make a case for Kostya over PBF. Head2head however maybe different. The 2 biggest names that Floyd beat were LW's, considering Kostya is a LWW it may seem less relevant when comparing head2head, I do believe Kostya would have crushed Corrales & Castillo much easier than Floyd did. Would have been a great fight and it probably would have been 60/40 in PBF favour at their primes at 140lb. Shame they never met.

ron u.k. · 10-01-2007, 11:18 AM

i take it there is no one here who actually believes he's the best p4p ever?

China_hand_Joe · 10-01-2007, 11:19 AM

I believe he is top 20 possibly top 10 ever.

rydersonthestorm · 10-01-2007, 11:24 AM

He was a great fighter but losing to phillips an having nut job judah and mitchell as your big wins doesn't put you anywhere near the top 20 p4p fighters of all time tis is a joke.

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lenzo Lenzo ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Anchorage Posts: 191 vCash: 1000	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever Kosta was a great fighter but I wouldn't call him the best P4P of all time. I give that distinction to the old Roberto Duran when he was a lightweight.
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09-30-2007, 12:21 PM	#34
Beatboxer Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 7,722 vCash: 1000	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever what does that make vince phillips then
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10-01-2007, 06:50 AM	#35
gatorage Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 274 vCash: 1000	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever I'm not sure ... but I think the Angelo Dundee comment was actually a statement he made after seeing Tszyu as an amateur. He said an amateur Tszyu was the best boxer he had ever seen. I don't think the statement was regarding Tszyu's professional career. And Tszyu had a chance against anyone. He NEVER had problems with boxers or speed. If you let him set his feet you were in trouble. The guys that gave Tszyu hard fights like Lopez, Urkal, Phillips and Hatton all came forward and kept Tszyu backpedalling. Both losses were still competitive. Mayweather doesn't have that style. He would give Tszyu ever chance to pick and choose his shots which never ended well for the boxers Tszyu faced. It's a 50/50 fight but I lean towards Tszyu. I've seen all his fights and he was never outboxed.
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10-01-2007, 08:28 AM	#36
grouch Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 192 vCash: 1000	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever Kosta was never a hype job and hardly had a chance to be in the mega fight! That reflects on his achievements in a negative way. He shouldn't have lost to Phillips I guess. Both DLH and Mosley skipped 140lb, these two fights would make Kosta an ATG. Kosta would definitely beat Mosley and would have a good chance at DLH. As of Mayweather fight all indicators point at Kosta's relatively easy win. He's always done well against cuties.
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10-01-2007, 09:06 AM	#37
mattress Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wet Beaver Creek, Australia Posts: 9,672 vCash: 1618	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever Both PBF and KT are/were great, great fighters but neither are anywhere near the best of all time.
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10-01-2007, 10:06 AM	#38
Sonny Carson Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,506 vCash: 1000	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever Kostya was overrated he never beat anybody great and got knocked out by Vince Phillips. He never could fight anybody who pressured him(Phillips and Hatton). Aaron Pryor and Julio Cesar Chavez would kill him in there primes.
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10-01-2007, 11:12 AM	#39
dangerousity Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 7,445 vCash: 204	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever Based on resume I dont think you can make a case for Kostya over PBF. Head2head however maybe different. The 2 biggest names that Floyd beat were LW's, considering Kostya is a LWW it may seem less relevant when comparing head2head, I do believe Kostya would have crushed Corrales & Castillo much easier than Floyd did. Would have been a great fight and it probably would have been 60/40 in PBF favour at their primes at 140lb. Shame they never met.
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10-01-2007, 11:18 AM	#40
ron u.k. Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5,184 vCash: 1000	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever i take it there is no one here who actually believes he's the best p4p ever?
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10-01-2007, 11:19 AM	#41
China_hand_Joe Nostradamus East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,690 vCash: 563	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever I believe he is top 20 possibly top 10 ever.
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10-01-2007, 11:24 AM	#42
rydersonthestorm Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,013 vCash: 1000	Re: Tszyu Is The Best P4p Boxer Ever He was a great fighter but losing to phillips an having nut job judah and mitchell as your big wins doesn't put you anywhere near the top 20 p4p fighters of all time tis is a joke.
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