*Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick* - Page 2

kosaros · 11-09-2009, 05:38 PM

Pacquiao late stoppage.

ScouseLad · 11-09-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by threethirteen

ScouseLad, I'm a huge fan too. I was heartbroken after he lost to Margo - I was staying at a friend's in Brighton and we watched it on Setanta by Broadband. I went to bed feeling disturbed at what I'd witnessed. I was pleased for Margo, and then the Mosley fight exposed something very worrying - then I just felt angry.

I agree with all your points. Cotto struggled with an opponent who is much better than any of Manny's last three opponents. The guy is a great fighter, but he's going to lose to Cotto. Cotto is too smart, versatile and strong for Manny's pitter-pat punches at WW.

I was in awe at an absolute masterclass for the first 5-6 rounds against Margo then it all went wrong! Horribly wrong. I was the same, despite the disappointment I was pleased for Margo to get some recognition and praise, especially after him nearly having me in tears when talking about his dead brother on 24/7 but now...fuck him.

Snorkel · 11-09-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ScouseLad

I was in awe at an absolute masterclass for the first 5-6 rounds against Margo then it all went wrong! Horribly wrong. I was the same, despite the disappointment I was pleased for Margo to get some recognition and praise, especially after him nearly having me in tears when talking about his dead brother on 24/7 but now...fuck him.

Likewise.

I still believe that had he not had his nose absolutely flattened in round 4, he would've kept Margo at bay for longer and taken a decision. That said, I may be a little biased too.

Losfer_Words · 11-09-2009, 06:01 PM

Everyone knows how dangerous Cotto will be if he's given an opportunity to land something big and also if he's given rounds to do it. For me, I see Pacquiao getting in and out often and he'll win the fight on accumulation in a mid-late stoppage, IMO.

If Pacquiao wins this, it would be nothing short of sensational: quite apt that that's what Pacquiao is. Win or lose, we're witnessing something else here and we should all enjoy him while he's here.

Pacquiao-Cotto whispers 2 years ago? You must be out of your God damn mind!

TFFP · 11-09-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by threethirteen

I think you'll find you're wrong. He's got a solid straight right that he made Mosley pay with several times (see my profile pic for evidence of that). I'm pretty sure he landed it at will against Margarito early on too.

It's not a great punch of his. It's not that powerful compared to the rest of his armoury, I don't think it will bother Pacquiao too much and that is the punch Pacquiao is most susceptible too. Mayweather would beat Pacquiao because of his lead and sneaky counter right hand.

TFFP · 11-09-2009, 06:13 PM

I bet anything Pacquiao circles into Cotto's right hand. He'll take his chances there and avoid that harpoon like jab and the left hook to head and body.

Whereas Cotto is susceptible to Pacquiao's punches big time. Pacquiao's left hand will punch right down the middle of Cotto's guard, and the hook come uppercut will sneak under like Margarito's did. Cotto gonna get busted up and swelled/cut possibly.

Bonavena25 · 11-09-2009, 06:24 PM

I agree about Cotto's right hand not being an instinctively great weapon, there does seem to be a bit of hesitation there before he throws it.

Having said that, Miguel has shown the ability to stand square on in the past and almost go southpaw himself in order to throw some meaty lefts, so I can see him trying to mix it up.

JIM KELLY · 11-09-2009, 06:24 PM

i cant see pac destroying Cotto, or winning by a KO, but i would never had thought hatton would get abused in 2 by pac. I would love to see a Cotto win, in style, but money goes on pac..

TFFP · 11-09-2009, 06:31 PM

True. Kinda risky to try and out-southpaw or get square on against Pac though. Might get put on his ass.

BoroBoxing1 · 11-09-2009, 06:57 PM

I think Cotto hasnt recoverd from the Margarito KO if you ask me, I know he has won a world title since then but it just seems like the old Cotto isnt there anymore, theres just something about him that has changed since that fight, that is why i think Pacquaio is going to get the late stoppage.... I hope i am wrong about Cotto because i really like him as a fighter and respect what he has done in the ring.

THE KNUCKLE · 11-09-2009, 07:47 PM

Cotto to win by ko mid fight,am i right in saying cottos defeat was later found out that margarito had plastercasts under his gloves that night,so really he would be unbeaten going into this...this guys pure class on his day

Dunky McCafferty · 11-09-2009, 08:06 PM

I predicted Haye would beat Valuev, & I predict handy Manny will beat Cotto.

Davro · 11-09-2009, 08:10 PM

It's a shame because I really love Cotto.

But Margarito and his illegal handwraps have taken a lot out of Cotto.

Despite the cut v Clottey, he still didn't seem the same fighter as three fights prior. He's cautious, edgy, defensive, and lacks his granite chin these days. Good luck trying to counter punch Pacquiao.

Thus i can only see a Pacquiao KO I'm afraid, around Round 7 or 8.

faisal · 11-09-2009, 08:23 PM

pacquiao
cottos an orthodox fighter fighting out of southpaw stance againsrt a pure southpaw hes fucked how is he going to get off with his punches against the fast pacquiao

JonOli · 11-09-2009, 08:43 PM

Not sure...

I think Pac may be able to null Cotto's leading strong arm by skipping around it. Having said thatthe very few times I've seen Pac caught with a shot, around this weight, it looks like he's possibly felt it.

I'll say Pac on points.

View Poll Results: Manny or Miguel?
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Pacquiao Decision	17	10.76%
Cotto Decision	17	10.76%
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11-09-2009, 05:38 PM	#16
kosaros P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK Posts: 19,917 vCash: 999	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick Pacquiao late stoppage.
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11-09-2009, 06:01 PM	#19
Losfer_Words ★★★ 2 TONE EXPRESS ★★★ East Side Guru Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 9,660 vCash: 1000	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick Everyone knows how dangerous Cotto will be if he's given an opportunity to land something big and also if he's given rounds to do it. For me, I see Pacquiao getting in and out often and he'll win the fight on accumulation in a mid-late stoppage, IMO. If Pacquiao wins this, it would be nothing short of sensational: quite apt that that's what Pacquiao is. Win or lose, we're witnessing something else here and we should all enjoy him while he's here. Pacquiao-Cotto whispers 2 years ago? You must be out of your God damn mind!
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11-09-2009, 06:13 PM	#21
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,426 vCash: 2500	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick I bet anything Pacquiao circles into Cotto's right hand. He'll take his chances there and avoid that harpoon like jab and the left hook to head and body. Whereas Cotto is susceptible to Pacquiao's punches big time. Pacquiao's left hand will punch right down the middle of Cotto's guard, and the hook come uppercut will sneak under like Margarito's did. Cotto gonna get busted up and swelled/cut possibly.
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11-09-2009, 06:24 PM	#22
Bonavena25 Vamos! ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,638 vCash: 500	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick I agree about Cotto's right hand not being an instinctively great weapon, there does seem to be a bit of hesitation there before he throws it. Having said that, Miguel has shown the ability to stand square on in the past and almost go southpaw himself in order to throw some meaty lefts, so I can see him trying to mix it up.
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11-09-2009, 06:24 PM	#23
JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Han's Island Posts: 18,519 vCash: 1000	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick i cant see pac destroying Cotto, or winning by a KO, but i would never had thought hatton would get abused in 2 by pac. I would love to see a Cotto win, in style, but money goes on pac..
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11-09-2009, 06:31 PM	#24
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,426 vCash: 2500	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick True. Kinda risky to try and out-southpaw or get square on against Pac though. Might get put on his ass.
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11-09-2009, 06:57 PM	#25
BoroBoxing1 Train Hard Fight Easier ESB Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Bank, Middlesbrough Posts: 456 vCash: 1000	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick I think Cotto hasnt recoverd from the Margarito KO if you ask me, I know he has won a world title since then but it just seems like the old Cotto isnt there anymore, theres just something about him that has changed since that fight, that is why i think Pacquaio is going to get the late stoppage.... I hope i am wrong about Cotto because i really like him as a fighter and respect what he has done in the ring.
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11-09-2009, 07:47 PM	#26
THE KNUCKLE RIP YER HEID AFF ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 229 vCash: 1000	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick Cotto to win by ko mid fight,am i right in saying cottos defeat was later found out that margarito had plastercasts under his gloves that night,so really he would be unbeaten going into this...this guys pure class on his day
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11-09-2009, 08:06 PM	#27
Dunky McCafferty KEYBOARD HARDCASE East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,860 vCash: 1000	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick I predicted Haye would beat Valuev, & I predict handy Manny will beat Cotto.
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11-09-2009, 08:10 PM	#28
Davro u wnt sum i`ll give it ya East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: wealdstone Posts: 8,964 vCash: 75	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick It's a shame because I really love Cotto. But Margarito and his illegal handwraps have taken a lot out of Cotto. Despite the cut v Clottey, he still didn't seem the same fighter as three fights prior. He's cautious, edgy, defensive, and lacks his granite chin these days. Good luck trying to counter punch Pacquiao. Thus i can only see a Pacquiao KO I'm afraid, around Round 7 or 8.
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11-09-2009, 08:23 PM	#29
faisal Hoolios daddy ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,774 vCash: 1167	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick pacquiao cottos an orthodox fighter fighting out of southpaw stance againsrt a pure southpaw hes fucked how is he going to get off with his punches against the fast pacquiao
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11-09-2009, 08:43 PM	#30
JonOli Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9,456 vCash: 75	Re: Pacquiao vs Cotto...make your pick Not sure... I think Pac may be able to null Cotto's leading strong arm by skipping around it. Having said thatthe very few times I've seen Pac caught with a shot, around this weight, it looks like he's possibly felt it. I'll say Pac on points.
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