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Old 11-14-2009, 05:46 AM   #46
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Yes because he hasnt been in shape SIMPLE.. You must have seen him when he gets into the ring with his big fat belly its not good for a fighter if he could wipp himself into shape with the right conditioning he could beat any heavyweight out there convinceingly.
To be fair in his last fight where he was apparently rocked by a guy with a 12-5 record he weighed in at his lightest weight for 6 years.
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Old 11-14-2009, 05:50 AM   #47
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Dunky why would you be wanting to piss on the British Flag ?
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Old 11-14-2009, 05:51 AM   #48
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Yes because he hasnt been in shape SIMPLE.. You must have seen him when he gets into the ring with his big fat belly its not good for a fighter if he could wipp himself into shape with the right conditioning he could beat any heavyweight out there convinceingly.
He's 40. Being out of shape for so long doesn't mean that you magically become a world beater when you slim down. It just doesn't it takes its toll and sometime's worse for you.

Here's a fact: Toney weighed 217 in his last fight. He was 230-ish for years prior. He was rocked in his last fight by a complete and utter journeyman who wouldn't have made him blink a few years before. Remember what happened to Chris Bird when he lost a load of weight, got into great shape and tried his luck at LHW? He got annihilated!

Whatever weight James Toney comes in at now he isn't going to be a fighter significantly enhanced over the one you've seen in recent years. He's a KO waiting to happen and it needn't have been that way...all it would've taken is a little bit of discipline a decade ago and his story could have been a much more glorious one.
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Old 11-14-2009, 06:01 AM   #49
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Toney needs to concentrate on actually fighting and not flapping his gums.
It's been a long time since his last credible win.

I don't think the weight thing is even so much an issue now, it's the age and general wear & tear. He has basically wasted most of his heavyweight career and it may be too late now.
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Old 11-14-2009, 06:01 AM   #50
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James Toney has more skills more a complete fighter than Byrd, True he should have had more discipline a few years ago he wouldnt be like he is now but most of a his defeats have come down to fitness in the later rounds thats why am saying if he get fit and stop being so lazy he might be able to get threw them later rounds.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:05 AM   #51
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Whatever weight James Toney comes in at now he isn't going to be a fighter significantly enhanced over the one you've seen in recent years. He's a KO waiting to happen and it needn't have been that way...all it would've taken is a little bit of discipline a decade ago and his story could have been a much more glorious one.
I can't help but laugh when people say this about Toney.'With a bit of dedication,he could have been so much more succesful'.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:48 AM   #52
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Less of the cheap racial stereotyping, you tight fisted, vinegar hearted, bitter scottish twat
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:23 AM   #54
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Toney is a proper joke now ain't he?
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:28 AM   #55
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David Haye wont fight James Toney far to big a risk for him, James Toney is one of the most underated fighters of all time, Hes like the Heavyweight Floyd Mayweather, Silky Skills with a quality defence and can put together nice combinations(even though they are getting slower and slower). I think he could beat Haye if he got in the right type of shape instead of being lazy.
What has Haye ever done to make you think he's someone who is afraid to take risks?
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Old 11-14-2009, 05:48 PM   #56
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Toney has always been a loud mouthed prick,ive never liked the guy.He was a good fighter when he was younger,these days he is just a fat tool trying to get another pay day.He has no chance,what does he think he has done to deserve a title fight?
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Old 11-14-2009, 06:07 PM   #57
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David Haye wont fight James Toney far to big a risk for him, James Toney is one of the most underated fighters of all time, Hes like the Heavyweight Floyd Mayweather, Silky Skills with a quality defence and can put together nice combinations(even though they are getting slower and slower). I think he could beat Haye if he got in the right type of shape instead of being lazy.

The heavyweight floyd give me peace man, the guy is a fat, cigar smoking arsehole, doesnt deserve a shot at Haye, just wants a payday, tell him to ****off and eat some doughnuts
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Old 11-14-2009, 06:34 PM   #58
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I like Toney. He's a quality fighter and his trash talk is always entertaining, but he really needs to think about retiring now. He hasn't looked good in a good few fights now and it seems that boxing's taking it's toll on him.
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