Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > British Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-15-2009, 09:07 AM   #1
jc333
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 561
vCash: 1000
Default Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

This guy should be a regular on any pundit panel.
jc333 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 11-15-2009, 09:20 AM   #2
46and0
It's irrefutable.
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Cordial salutations
Posts: 3,354
vCash: 165
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

I can see his point but I don't enjoy his clunky writing style. Why say 3 words when you can use 15, eh Hugh?
46and0 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 10:01 AM   #3
bigG
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: wherever my mind takes me
Posts: 789
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

big mac is a great writer...i dont find his style clunky, he just describes things with a superb vocabulary and a great turn of phrase....one of the finest writers of our generation..mclavanney on boxing is a fantastic book, find it and read it if you want a good boxing book...
bigG is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 10:06 AM   #4
davidjay
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 728
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigG View Post
big mac is a great writer...i dont find his style clunky, he just describes things with a superb vocabulary and a great turn of phrase....one of the finest writers of our generation..mclavanney on boxing is a fantastic book, find it and read it if you want a good boxing book...
Agreed on all points. McIlvanney is from the era when writers used words to paint a canvas and didn't write in headlines.
davidjay is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 10:39 AM   #5
sugarsean
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: England
Posts: 2,253
vCash: 1057
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

He's right in everything he said
sugarsean is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 10:56 AM   #6
sidthehat
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 900
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

Don't think he's the writer he was a decade or more ago but he's largely right here. He has the gravitas that you can respect his opinion whereas you can't when Colin Hart comments on Haye because he's ******'s puppet. Too many of the other boxing writers are fanboys when it comes to British fighters. None of them now are anywhere near McIlvanney's league.
sidthehat is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 11:14 AM   #7
bigG
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: wherever my mind takes me
Posts: 789
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

i realy thing hugh is the best boxing writer to come from these shores, and, in fact, deserves to be mentioned with the very best globally...if you asked me to name 5 boxing writers better than mcllvanney id struggle...
bigG is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 11:21 AM   #8
TheUzi
MISSION INCOMPLETE
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 3,688
vCash: 315
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

Just because he's a great writer,wouldn't make him a good pundit. Infact,if he spoke the way he writes,most would find him very annoying,there's no doubt about it.
TheUzi is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 11:27 AM   #9
bigG
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: wherever my mind takes me
Posts: 789
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

agreed....a writer dont make a good pundit, thats for sure..
bigG is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 12:45 PM   #10
gasman
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,068
vCash: 900
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigG View Post
big mac is a great writer...i dont find his style clunky, he just describes things with a superb vocabulary and a great turn of phrase....one of the finest writers of our generation..mclavanney on boxing is a fantastic book, find it and read it if you want a good boxing book...
100% right. McIllvanney is a member of the IBHOF - top notch.
gasman is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:04 AM   #11
scrap
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,668
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

Great Writer, and very good company sober.
scrap is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:08 AM   #12
alba
Guess who?
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,597
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

your all muppets .he is a great wrighter and was inducted in the IBHOF earlier his year,he is also mentioned a few times in Four kings by george kimball ,confirming his greatness .if you dont like him stick with your colin hart he more on your level
alba is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:13 AM   #13
threethirteen
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,186
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigG View Post
i realy thing hugh is the best boxing writer to come from these shores, and, in fact, deserves to be mentioned with the very best globally...if you asked me to name 5 boxing writers better than mcllvanney id struggle...
He's the best overall, but he's a columnist rather than a reporter (although he's excellent at that too). He provides opinions and gives perspective on the sport in a way few others do.

The only guys out there quite as good as him are Ron Borges and Doug Fischer, but Hugh's still better. He's got some flaws as a writer - he builds verbose, densely packed paragraphs that occasionally just become florid.

The main thing I like about him is that he admires the fighters he writes about, but he doesn't idolise them. He doesn't wave the flag, he doesn't overstate a fighter's case and he never gets sucked into the hype.

The Haye piece was excellent, because he gave Haye credit for a smart, tactical fight but also points out what an underwhelming fight it was.
threethirteen is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:15 AM   #14
threethirteen
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,186
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

Quote:
Originally Posted by alba View Post
your all muppets .he is a great wrighter and was inducted in the IBHOF earlier his year,he is also mentioned a few times in Four kings by george kimball ,confirming his greatness .if you dont like him stick with your colin hart he more on your level
Forgot about Kimball! He's good too.
threethirteen is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:29 AM   #15
Utter1
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 489
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Haye article by Hugh McIllvanney.

He has some good points, but one cannot help but think he is a man thinking of life through his prime rather than being objective.

Ali, Frazier and Foreman would all have a tough time defeating Valuev simply due to the freaskish size.
Utter1 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > British Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013