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Old 11-16-2009, 02:41 PM   #1
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On Friday I had to listen to a guy saying that if he gets inside a boxer it's all over. He then proceeded to tell me how cage fighting just don't cut it.

Personally, I think it is very good but not against a trained fighter. If it was effective it would have been used more in MMA. I do think it is very good though. I'm a big fan though I wouldn't exactly agree with what the bloke said to me on Friday.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:45 PM   #2
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A wing chung fighter I am sure would beat up most random thugs but anybody with any training in boxing, muay thai bjj sambo etc would take them out rapidly from what I have seen.

Assuming no eye gouging etc is involved.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:47 PM   #3
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Kidnap him and take him to a boxing or mma gym.

Show him Gracies in Action videos.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:58 PM   #4
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Kidnap him and take him to a boxing or mma gym.
Beebs you have the right idea.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:34 PM   #5
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A wing chung fighter I am sure would beat up most random thugs but anybody with any training in boxing, muay thai bjj sambo etc would take them out rapidly from what I have seen.

Assuming no eye gouging etc is involved.
wing chun takes so long 2 perfect it is ridiculous. you dont know much about it at all. wing chun and wushu r the best fighting styles ever. bye the way, what fighters have you been observing?
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:38 PM   #6
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1. What are you talking about what fighters I have been observing (all of them, its my hobby)

2. If it takes so long to perfect you will be past prime physically and get ****ed up because your old, that happens in real fighting.

3. Wushu....
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:55 PM   #7
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Your thoughts?

On Friday I had to listen to a guy saying that if he gets inside a boxer it's all over. He then proceeded to tell me how cage fighting just don't cut it.

Personally, I think it is very good but not against a trained fighter. If it was effective it would have been used more in MMA. I do think it is very good though. I'm a big fan though I wouldn't exactly agree with what the bloke said to me on Friday.

Not really. There are trends in mma. There is pressure to fight like a tough man contestant, which is what we see on zuffa shows.

Many useful techniques have not been introduced into MMA. I don't buy this guy could compete, but some wing chun techniques could be useful.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:21 PM   #8
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wing chun takes so long 2 perfect it is ridiculous. you dont know much about it at all. wing chun and wushu r the best fighting styles ever. bye the way, what fighters have you been observing?
So name the best wing chung fighter in the world then.

What does length of time to learn have to do with making somethig inherently good?

I'll take a decent high school wrestler a golden gloves boxer, a bjj blue belt, an average judoka, or a 15 year old Thai fighter over any wing chung "fighter" (in quoted because the term fighter usually means you have fought) 100/100 times.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:23 PM   #9
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It defintely looks cool on the videos.
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Not really. There are trends in mma. There is pressure to fight like a tough man contestant, which is what we see on zuffa shows.

Many useful techniques have not been introduced into MMA. I don't buy this guy could compete, but some wing chun techniques could be useful.

Yes, toughman contestants like Machida, Lesnar, BJ, GSP; all horrible fighters.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:48 PM   #11
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Your thoughts?

On Friday I had to listen to a guy saying that if he gets inside a boxer it's all over. He then proceeded to tell me how cage fighting just don't cut it.

Personally, I think it is very good but not against a trained fighter. If it was effective it would have been used more in MMA. I do think it is very good though. I'm a big fan though I wouldn't exactly agree with what the bloke said to me on Friday.
He's talking shit. I trained in Wing Chun as a kid. As an art form its better than Wushu but striking wise its nonsense. The good thing about Wing Chun is its emphasizes anatomy and attacking the weakess parts of the body. Sticky fingers is impressive to watch but in reality its not that practical to apply. I mean some of the moves for defending against weapons like knives is pretty laughable.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:58 PM   #12
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San-Shou / San-Da is a part of/related to Wu-Shu; so if by Wu-Shu he means San-Da/Shou, a highly competitive sport similar to Thai-Boxing with takedowns he isn't quite an idiot. Of course he doesn't, and he is though.

China, in particular, has some absolutely fantastic San-Da fighters who are better, significantly better, than Cung Le in that sport. Given they have a billion people and it's their national martial art, and that The Art of War is a fantastic Chinese MMA promotion, their is a huge potential for Chinese San da fighters who develop a ground game (or prime Liddell takedown defense/ability to get back up) to make an enormous impact.

Of course it is yet another example of communism ruining the world since they don't have the freedom needed to learn and leave the country
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So name the best wing chung fighter in the world then.

What does length of time to learn have to do with making somethig inherently good?

I'll take a decent high school wrestler a golden gloves boxer, a bjj blue belt, an average judoka, or a 15 year old Thai fighter over any wing chung "fighter" (in quoted because the term fighter usually means you have fought) 100/100 times.
bruce lee is the best followed bye jackie chan.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:21 PM   #14
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**** off ya dirty noob.

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Old 11-16-2009, 07:23 PM   #15
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**** off ya dirty noob.

nuff said. you had 2 ask and shows you dont know what you are talking about.
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