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View Poll Results: Oleg - Emeritus Champ if he retires?
Yes - his situation is identical to Vitalys 15 28.30%
No - state your reason 12 22.64%
Who knows, the WBC is run by monkeys anyway??? 26 49.06%
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default Oleg - Emeritus if he retires??

Well, will Oleg ALSO be crowned Emeritus Champ if he retires, just like Vitlay did?

Oleg won the title, and defended against a voluntary challenger once.

Vitaly won the title, and defended against a voluntary challenger once.


Vitaly retired because of injuries.
Oleg - well, he might too...


Really. What's the difference? Oleg didn't have a losing title shot previously???
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:10 AM   #2
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..that would be great. Two champions in emeritus and an interim champ.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:12 AM   #3
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If they are consistent with their own rules, we'll see. Of course, this just shows how utterly ridiculous they were to begin with.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:14 AM   #4
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Default Re: Oleg - Emeritus if he retires??

I don't really care...

As I don't with basically the entire heavyweight division...

Which is probably the reason why boxing doesn't get as much press these days.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:27 AM   #5
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Default Re: Oleg - Emeritus if he retires??

At least Vitali was Ring champ during retirement.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:33 AM   #6
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..that would be great. Two champions in emeritus and an interim champ.
That is what we have now - Lewis is also a emeritus champion.

So we would have THREE champions in Emeritus, and ONE interim Champ!!!!

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Old 09-25-2007, 02:08 AM   #7
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Could almost have a "champion emeritus" tournament with the winner being declared the "ultimate champion emeritus".Now wouldn't that be great...
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:39 AM   #8
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At least Vitali was Ring champ during retirement.
That was the biggest farce of his entire "title" reign.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:45 AM   #9
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The WBC belt has been dragged through the mud since Lennox retired. Every other champ honors their mandatory commitment except Vitali and Oleg. It's ridiculous.
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:53 AM   #10
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The WBC belt has been dragged through the mud since Lennox retired. Every other champ honors their mandatory commitment except Vitali and Oleg. It's ridiculous.
Vitali K - number of mandatory defences. 0
Oleg M - number of mandatory defences. 0

I wonder over how many months these two held the WBC title?

What money on some form of miraculous recoveries if Peter loses his interim title belt?

Only to have it happen all over again if Rahman is the mandatory...


The Emeritus thing is total and utter bullshit.

What it means is this. If you win the WBC belt - and don't like the look of the challenger - just get 'injured', and retire. Get given a free pass to unretire and fight the beltholder, and just wait until you like the look of the belt holder, or it will be a big money spinner (eg Oleg v Vitali in Russia), and unretire!!!



Oh, and everyone that voted NO - it's different, (apart from H.) - nobody has said why it's different?

Is it because Vitlay lost to Lewis? Or is more marketable?


Really, Oleg has achieved just as much in his career as Vitali.

You could even argue with his 2 defeats of Rahman, that his resume is better than Vitali's.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:51 AM   #11
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Vitali K - number of mandatory defences. 0
Oleg M - number of mandatory defences. 0

I wonder over how many months these two held the WBC title?

What money on some form of miraculous recoveries if Peter loses his interim title belt?

Only to have it happen all over again if Rahman is the mandatory...


The Emeritus thing is total and utter bullshit.

What it means is this. If you win the WBC belt - and don't like the look of the challenger - just get 'injured', and retire. Get given a free pass to unretire and fight the beltholder, and just wait until you like the look of the belt holder, or it will be a big money spinner (eg Oleg v Vitali in Russia), and unretire!!!



Oh, and everyone that voted NO - it's different, (apart from H.) - nobody has said why it's different?

Is it because Vitlay lost to Lewis? Or is more marketable?


Really, Oleg has achieved just as much in his career as Vitali.

You could even argue with his 2 defeats of Rahman, that his resume is better than Vitali's.
I'm not gonna give Oleg too much credit for having an average fighter's number. He won a bunch of meaningless fights before beating an average Samil Sam and then hit the jackpot because Rahman was the champion. Had it been anyone else Maskaev would have lost. Some guys just have your number. He could have really justified his claim to the championship pie by beating Peter but he knew that he had no chance of doing that so he did what Vitali did and snuck out the back door. Same organization, 2 eastern european fighters with 1 bullshit defense each in the month of december, same excuse. Maybe these 2 guys should get together for a cup of coffee and talk about their illustrious careers. Then again that might not be a good idea cuz Oleg might bring up the fact that he cleaned up Vitali's mess by beating Rahman.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:34 PM   #12
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Same organization, 2 eastern european fighters with 1 bullshit defense each in the month of december, same excuse. Maybe these 2 guys should get together for a cup of coffee and talk about their illustrious careers. Then again that might not be a good idea cuz Oleg might bring up the fact that he cleaned up Vitali's mess by beating Rahman.


Glad somebody else is as cynical as me around here about all of these 'injuries'....
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:35 PM   #13
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Now that I think about it, who knows?
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:36 PM   #14
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Default Re: Oleg - Emeritus if he retires??

The WBC has a new category for both its called "Champion Injurous" They will both go int he hall of fame as champions of injury.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:36 PM   #15
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No.

Vitali was seen as the best in 2004-2005, as a light after Lewis retired and had a different aura. Maskaev has been seen as a shitty beltholder and as a guy that would be destroyed by some fighters in the division.
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