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Old 02-16-2012, 05:49 AM   #1591
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Yeah I remember having it square around the 10th or something like that..though I'm pretty sure I had Duran ahead by a round or two at the time of the stoppage...I do remember thinking there was sweet **** all in it and Lampkin had put on a very respectable performance.

Roberto did look pretty poor compared to the superhuman performance he put on against DeJesus a year before..but I reckon he still had some polishing to do.

Lampkin was a very, very good fighter if you ask me...good skills, physical ability and fighting spirit.
I could see how you could have Duran in front he was landing the better blows, but Lampkin wasoutlanding him by a long way IMO. Any other Lampkin fights out there?
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:49 AM   #1592
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Winky Wright vs Fernando Vargas.

A really good action fight, but I like it because one fighter does the unexpected so well.

The first round is a feeling out round and Vargas is allowed to get off first and takes it, but there is nothing in it IMO. In the second Wright starts to impose himself on Vargas and gets off first and rattles in the combinations, he pushes back Vargas, hurts him and stops any offence coming back from Vargas.

Everyone is thinking Wright is mad, but it is his best way of winning, when he gives Vargas room, Vargas is able to get off and get his shots in. Wright manages to keep the pressure on and work hard.

This is the crux of the whole fight really, the only rounds Vargas win is with super human efforts in the fourth, tenth and twelfth where he just works like mad, but then in the next round he is knackered. In fact Wright only wins one round with 'boxing', lateral movement and jabs etc... and that was the eleventh with Vargas so tired from his tenth round rally.

Really nice fight but a bad decision IMO

Vargas: 1,4,10,12
Wright: 2,3,5,6,7,8,9,11
Total: 116-112 Wright (8-4)
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:08 PM   #1593
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IF it wasn't for the third Dejesus fight, Ortiz and the emiliano Villa non-title bout, the 2nd half of Duran's reign would be full of tepid coasting and general sluggishness.Not helped by the fact he fought half-arsed runners and spoilers like Bizzaro, Fernandez and Viruet, but still.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:10 PM   #1594
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Aye but he did beat some alright guys, despite his sluggishness.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:24 AM   #1595
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Canto v Avelar.

Best footage of canto I could find on youtube but it's towards the end of his title run so I'm not sure how "prime" he is here.

Maybe it's just the quality of fights I've been watching lately but canto really failed to impress me here.

Yeah just left feeling underwhelmed byu the fight, anyone else get this with canto? Put a fight on expecting greatness and left feeling meh?

Edit: Obviously i'm nto questioning the guys status because he has a great resume (maybe the best at the weight?) which is potentially why I was a bit disappointed; it was a good scrap, don't get me wrong, he just didn't look great to me or least not as great as toher's I've been watching lately.

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Old 02-18-2012, 07:59 AM   #1596
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I guess that was his thang though...defensive specialists tend to underwhelm.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:05 AM   #1597
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There's not much footage of Canto that captures his best imo.

About as good as it gets is the second Betulio Gonzalez fight. You can pretty much throw all the other footage out imo.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:55 AM   #1598
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There's not much footage of Canto that captures his best imo.

About as good as it gets is the second Betulio Gonzalez fight. You can pretty much throw all the other footage out imo.
that was my impression, he doesn't look great on any fights I could find.

I wonder what his best actually was and whther there's any rare footage of it out there.
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:02 AM   #1599
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More likely he's just not doing it for you.It's not like he's washed up in a lot of the footage.

things can change from a first impression though.It's usually the fighters with the dominant basic tools(ie devasting right hand\left hook etc) or more explosive highly charged styles that impress quicker.The ones with a more subtle or less flashy approach might take a while longer.

Which isn't to imply you aren't "getting it", as i said he might just not be for you.Everybody has some fighters generally recognised as great that they don't see what the fuss is about.just ask McGrain bout Burley.
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:15 AM   #1600
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could well be the case
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:26 PM   #1601
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Carbajal vs Gonzalez 1

1: 10-9
2: 8-10
3: 10-9
4: 10-9
5: 8-10
6: 10-9
7: Gonzalez ktfo
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56-56 at time of the stoppage.

The close scores don't really tell the story for me though because Carbajal dominated in a competitive fashion. The first knockdown is a product of him having no answer for chiquita's straight shots (the hooks and uppercuts practically failed to land at all) but when gonzalez was focusing on his straight shots, carbajal was able to meet him punch for punch and he was much stronger and much more accurate than gonzalez that night. so whilst a handful of shots did get through, the tide of the fight was clearly turning. After the 2nd knockdown Carbajal practically landed at will and really battered Gonzalez around, the 5th could even be scored a 10-9 because of how dominant carbajal was after being knocked down.

The finish was brutal as well, you could see the flush hooks consistently landing all night long and it seemed like amybe he'd just tire him against the ropes and tee off, but even pulled out a 1 shot ko to finish matters in the most dominant fashion possible: rendering a man incapacitated for 10 seconds.

Very impressed here. It was quite a dominant performance aside from the two kd's but even they showed his relience and will to continue (despite showing a weakness for the straight shots down the pipe imo).
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:47 PM   #1602
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Canto v Avelar.

Best footage of canto I could find on youtube but it's towards the end of his title run so I'm not sure how "prime" he is here.

Maybe it's just the quality of fights I've been watching lately but canto really failed to impress me here.

Yeah just left feeling underwhelmed byu the fight, anyone else get this with canto? Put a fight on expecting greatness and left feeling meh?

Edit: Obviously i'm nto questioning the guys status because he has a great resume (maybe the best at the weight?) which is potentially why I was a bit disappointed; it was a good scrap, don't get me wrong, he just didn't look great to me or least not as great as toher's I've been watching lately.
Think he's pretty good in this one. One of his better performanceson film, he really brings it to Avelar at times and shows a more aggressive side ot himself withlovely defence in the pocket. He actually goes to war here

The Gonzalez fights are a good showing as is the Martin Vargas rematch IMO
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:14 PM   #1603
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Think he's pretty good in this one. One of his better performanceson film, he really brings it to Avelar at times and shows a more aggressive side ot himself withlovely defence in the pocket. He actually goes to war here

The Gonzalez fights are a good showing as is the Martin Vargas rematch IMO
Yeah it's a good fight, he just doesn't look amazing in it Imo
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:44 PM   #1604
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just ask McGrain bout Burley.
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:10 AM   #1605
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I think when you consider he's in with arguably the hardest Flyweight puncher in history, Canto is very impressive against Avelar.
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