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Old 04-04-2012, 02:33 PM   #1846
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So I've just watched Khaosai Galxy vs Rafael Orono.

This guy had been troubling me lately because I had thought quite highly of him but read comments about people saying he was never that good and his resume was failry uninspiring.

Anyways I just watched this fight to get a glimpse of him at his best hoping to prove the doubters wrong.

I was left a bit meh.

I'm not saying he's like cuevas in that he's really poor but can spark people, but he did look quite poor, being caught with shots when he came close. His accuracy seems pretty bad also. He's not really a quick handed fighter neither.

His power and forward motion is impressive and his chin is solid as well.

Even in this victory thought, just before the end, orono threw a punch that by rights should have taken Galaxy's head off but he walked through it and I think Orono quit at that point.

I'm a little bit too young to remember myself the days of his prime, but am I write in saying he captured the imagination because he was small, foreign, built like a brick shit house, could whack and could take a punch?

I think looking over his resume he never was the best in the division and the WBC (should have been WBA also) lineage was quite strong throughout.

Who're the small guy specialists here? lora and flea I think.

Any of you guys able to shed some light on why this guy captured the imagination and somehow found himself with a really high ring ranking?

I mean number 1 SFLW and top 10 p4p seems preposterous based on his skillset and resume.

I've watched loads of fights this past few days though so my mind is kinda fuzzy and I might be missing something obvious.
ach, he's no worse than Wlad, luf.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:36 PM   #1847
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ach, he's no worse than Wlad, luf.
based on the fights I've seen I'd have to strongly disagree there.

Wlad is technically sound and dominates his opposition behind the jab breaking them down slowly until they're a punch bag.

that being said, a 6foot6 version of Galaxy probably rapes Wladimir.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:37 PM   #1848
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I'm watching Foster v Ahumada atm, doesn't make for great viewing tbh. Didn't catch the first 4 but 5 and 6 Ahumada took and Foster looks a shell of himself. It's fair to say that ali ruined him.

I'll watch the rest of it now but I'll be amazed if he turns it round and makes the draw verdict seem legit.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:48 PM   #1849
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Yeah Ahumada was robbed against the faded foster.

Lost a close 9-6 to Conteh though.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:17 PM   #1850
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Jorge had a pretty rough run luf...he was ranked in the top 5 for almost a year I think approaching his eventual title shot against Foster...got very hard done by there when he finally got a shot..then had the fortune of having to fight an up and coming Conteh and his compatriot foil in Galindez in his subsequent title shots.

Bad luck I guess.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:24 PM   #1851
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Jorge had a pretty rough run luf...he was ranked in the top 5 for almost a year I think approaching his eventual title shot against Foster...got very hard done by there when he finally got a shot..then had the fortune of having to fight an up and coming Conteh and his compatriot foil in Galindez in his subsequent title shots.

Bad luck I guess.
Definitely.

Even looking at his earlier career he had plenty of fights with Galindez as he was a prospect.

I think he should have been given the belts against Foster though, such a great performance even if ti was against a faded legend.

Best LHW in the world for a few months
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:46 PM   #1852
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Orono was past it as well. Khaosai was tough, but he could be rocked and dropped. He was slow and plodding because he was massive at the weight. He just bulldozed people. He had his limitations.


Lora can clarify, but I imagine seeing only a few bits of Khaosai (a few Thais on ITV in the 80s, including the Galaxy Bros.) and just reading about him in the mags. 'This Thai bloke has made 100 defences and sparked a million people out' I don't think it's hard to see why the legend grew. Khaosai is one of the few who have really suffered a retrospective Internet reputation ruining.

Poontarat was better IMO, but just didn't have any longevity in him.

For all Khaosai's flaws though, he does have some good wins, does have a consistent run where no one beats him, and was a considerable physical presence at the weight. He was good, very good in fact. But not great, although he was better than Wonjongkam and probably deserved a lower spot in the top ten at some point.

Now re-watch Khaokor-Moon II and Vasquez. I think it'll all come together now and you'll see I haven't been shot away all this time

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So I've just watched Khaosai Galxy vs Rafael Orono.

This guy had been troubling me lately because I had thought quite highly of him but read comments about people saying he was never that good and his resume was failry uninspiring.

Anyways I just watched this fight to get a glimpse of him at his best hoping to prove the doubters wrong.

I was left a bit meh.

I'm not saying he's like cuevas in that he's really poor but can spark people, but he did look quite poor, being caught with shots when he came close. His accuracy seems pretty bad also. He's not really a quick handed fighter neither.

His power and forward motion is impressive and his chin is solid as well.

Even in this victory thought, just before the end, orono threw a punch that by rights should have taken Galaxy's head off but he walked through it and I think Orono quit at that point.

I'm a little bit too young to remember myself the days of his prime, but am I write in saying he captured the imagination because he was small, foreign, built like a brick shit house, could whack and could take a punch?

I think looking over his resume he never was the best in the division and the WBC (should have been WBA also) lineage was quite strong throughout.

Who're the small guy specialists here? lora and flea I think.

Any of you guys able to shed some light on why this guy captured the imagination and somehow found himself with a really high ring ranking?

I mean number 1 SFLW and top 10 p4p seems preposterous based on his skillset and resume.

I've watched loads of fights this past few days though so my mind is kinda fuzzy and I might be missing something obvious.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:50 PM   #1853
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Anyway it's Bujia and lora you want, not me.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:57 PM   #1854
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Awaiting Bujia's input on Galaxy Khaosai eagerly!

He was consistent, deifntiely, just consistantly hittable, consistently durable, and consistently powerful imo. A tank.

I don't think he was ever the best in the division though. Roman, Laciar, Rojas, Konadu and Moon all should have been above him imo.

Strangely Quiroga topped the rankings at some point also and I have no idea why?
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:02 PM   #1855
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Because of that fight I imagine.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:02 PM   #1856
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And tank is often used for Khaosai and again it's perfectly apt IMO. Bus Station would've mullered him.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:04 PM   #1857
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Just watch Galindez v Kates 1.

This is one of the performances that really impressed me. I've seen loads of great performances lately expecting them to be great but after seeing the first 3 rounds of this I was expecting to see a battle of attrition due to physical attributes (kinda like margo v cotto).

The first 3 rounds Victor plays the part of slow starter and Kates happily throws his jab at him for 8 and a half minutes. Galindez is decent defensively here but basically throws away the rounds aside from a few hefty body shots. Then Kates headbutts Galindez and he really awakened the beast.

Galindez was so multi faceted in his attack that I was amazed how effective he was. He began by physically overwhelming Kates and forcing his respect by shoving him against the ropes and pounding away, it weren't pretty but it did his job. He then focused on counter attacks timing Kates beautifully and landing hard shots.

By this point Kates must have been frustrated because he didn't really adapt and just kept behind his jab hoping for the same success.

Galindez then really takes the piss by outjabbing Kates for a couple of rounds on the outside.

The last 2 rounds see Galindez walking Kates onto some beautifully timed shots, but Kates is probably outworking him.

The finish was a glorious 1 punch knockout.

I'm not saying it's the best performance I've seen lately, but the way Galindez adapted from the early rounds really impressed me.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it and giving him unwarranted ring IQ points, I dunno. But I think any LHW is gonna have the fight of their life against that version of Galindez. Great adapting, great strength, great punch variety and nice defensive moves also.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:06 PM   #1858
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Because of that fight I imagine.
it'd be kinda like declaring the winner of gatti - ward the best in the division though.

stil, I've seen worse calls.

I wouldn't agree though.
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Kates really was a top drawer contender. Please tell me you've seen his fight with Saad??!?!
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:20 PM   #1860
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Kates really was a top drawer contender. Please tell me you've seen his fight with Saad??!?!
I've seen so many fights since Easter holidays started that I've lost track

I don't think so though.

I'll hunt it down.

As an aside, your streams of consciousness seem much more toned down lately you kicked the good stuff?
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