the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

Khaokor Galaxy vs Luisito Espinosa
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Khaokor was a lousy actor

Israel Contreras vs Luisito Espinosa

rd 1 10-9 Contreras cud b claimed even
rd 2 a 10-7 4 Espinosa
rd 5 Contreras wins by KO in d 2nd time he floored Espinosa at it .

He was weight drained, not acting.

And Lester; Conteh is fabulous, eh?

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

He was weight drained, not acting.

Think about this : his identical twin brother was a long time titlist @ 115 during d same time and u claim that he was drained @ 118 .

Still possible that he was drained but regardless , he was acting .

[Flea Man]

How about fuck off.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Conteh is fabulous, eh?

Conteh was an excellent fighter.

A wasted talent.

I like his "bigger version of Napoles" style.


I have him at #8 on my Top 10 light heavyweight list:

1. Michalczewski (24 defenses of WBO title - mind-boggling)
2. Calzaghe (46-0, there's no blueprint etc)
3. Hopkins (unknockoutable at lhw)
4. Zsolt Erdei (11 defenses of WBO title, 33-0)
5. Tarver (beat prime Jones 3 times)
6. Stipe Drews (an obscure ATG, you don't know him)
7. Victor Foster (another obscure 70's fighter, you should boxrec him)
9. Bobby Czyz (relentless warrior, almost made Holyfield quit)
8. John Conteh

Yes, my top 10 consists of 8 fighters.

[Flea Man]

That's a Frank-esque list.

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

Think about this : his twin brother was a long time titlist @ 115 during d same time and u claim that he was drained @ 118 .

Still possible that he was drained but regardless , he was acting .

Looked to me like he fainted. I don't think you realise how hard it is for some fighters to make the weight.

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

Looked to me like he fainted. I don't think you realise how hard it is for some fighters to make the weight.

he sat down without ever being hit .
he did not even use his legs 4 it was still d 1st rd .

I do realize how hard it is 4 some fighters 2 make d weight but his identical twin still made 115 back then as a reigning titlist so how drained do u think that he was @ 118 ? even if he was , not 2d extent u2 claim that he was .

It was a blatant , obvious dive .

Maybe he was drained but he took a dive .

[Flea Man]

He did not take a dive stop talking shit.

[frankenfrank]

He did , u post shit . it is obvious that he took a dive .

even drained fighters need some time 2 get tired .
as opposed 2 less than 1 not very physical and not very action packed 1st rd .

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

he sat down without ever being hit .
he did not even use his legs 4 it was still d 1st rd .

I do realize how hard it is 4 some fighters 2 make d weight but his identical twin still made 115 back then as a reigning titlist so how drained do u think that he was @ 118 ? even if he was , not 2d extent u2 claim that he was .

It was a blatant , obvious dive .

Maybe he was drained but he took a dive .

I don't see how his brother doing the weight has got anything to do with him doing the weight even if they are identical twins.

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

I don't see how his brother doing the weight has got anything to do with him doing the weight even if they are identical twins.

god told me in my dream that identical twins might have some genetic resemblance which just might b magnified a bit in cases when they grow up 2gether in d same environment and shit .

Might have been d devil though .

God Xpects d twin brother of some1 capable of making 115 2b able 2 make at least 118 during d same time his brother makes 115 .

It is possible that he was still drained , but i have seen plenty of drained fighters and they never go down & out so easily and quickly during d 1st rd without being punched , u know ?

this is just god's shit .

[AlFrancis]

Even if they have got genetic resemblance doesn't mean they will do the weight the same. There are other intangibles like mental attitude, training complications, outside influences. One fighter can have weight problems for a fight and less problems in his next for example depending on all kind of reasons and you think that just because they are twins it will be the same for them doing the weight.

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

Even if they have got genetic resemblance doesn't mean they will do the weight the same.

Not d same , Khaosai made 115 during all of his long reign , and u claim that his identical twin could not make 118 during that same time , not d 115 of his identical twin brother , but 118 .

U still do not get it .

Khaosai successfully made 115 during d same time that his brother failed 2 even make d higher 118 .

How many times should i repeat it and in how many different forms ?

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

There are other intangibles like mental attitude, training complications, outside influences. One fighter can have weight problems for a fight and less problems in his next for example depending on all kind of reasons and you think that just because they are twins it will be the same for them doing the weight.

Regarding these other "intangibles" , they grew at d same environment at d same time , did they not ?

But i still did not completely rule out d possibility that he was drained .

I answered about it as well , u either did not read my posts or failed 2 comprehend them .

I answered about each 1 of d possibilities and explained Y he took a dive , (whether he was) drained or not .

[Lester1583]

God damn you, Sumbu "Big Canto" Kalambay!

They robbed Graham in the rematch

An excellent unbiased referee.


Both fighters looked very shaky, borderline shot.

Poor Steve Collins

[Flea Man]

Going through my uploads Les'?