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Old 09-13-2012, 06:23 PM   #2356
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Good fight that, Villasana was ****ing nails and hit hard.

Odd how he seemed to give up really trying against Nelson second time round, didn't seem up to it, admittedly Nelson looked to have his number and clowned him at times.

In terms of his chin? Surely one of the best.

I like Hoko in every fight I've seem him in. Good fighter.

Re-scored the Villasana-Esparragoza match yet? You'd mentioned you were in the minority on that one, and anxious to see if you saw it any differently. It's one of those one could just as easily see it one way of the other depending on the style you tend to notice. I thought the draw was spot on.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:11 AM   #2357
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I never claimed the difference in their fighting weights was 7 pound, that's just the difference in boxing weights between super fly and super bantam.

Just because he might of struggled at 118 on that night doesn't mean 122 would of suited him better but it might of.

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that 122 might of suited him better than 118 even though his brother was boxing at 115?
r u not 1 of those claiming that d "intermediate" divisions r redundant ?

so now your claim is that 118 was 2 high 4 him but 122 (as opposed 2 126)
was 2 high ?

is not d definition of superbantamweight , d lowest division where those having 2 much trouble of making 118 belong ?

u ignored my comparison with d much bigger Espinosa .

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It is possible that he might of made 118 next fight out with less problems?
possible , but usually those having trouble of making a certain weight have more trouble of making it when more time passes .

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It is possible that he could of made 115 like he his brother but chose to box at 118 because he was less disciplined than his brother when it came to doing the weight.
a bit possible , but that was already in d "initial" 3 lbs difference between them .

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It is possible that his brother was tight at 115 and might of been even better at 118.
I doubt it , but it is possible .


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Do you think that the brothers weigh between 3 pounds of each other now because they are identical twins?
as implied by your posts , they had more than 3 lbs separating between them as early as then .

As time passes , differences due 2 differences in lifestyles might increase , but back then i doubt that d difference between them was more than 3 lbs .

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Do you think that Khakor is still the heaviest by that 3 pounds or do you think he could be 4 pounds heavier or is it only possible for him to be 7 pounds heavier?
again , r u trying 2 imply that there should b a division between 118 and 122 ?

If he was such a huge 118 (of course that he was not since his identical twin reigned during d exact same time @ 115 and his opponent Luisito Espinosa whom really was a big 118 and later a successful 126 was not claimed 2b more drained at 118 here) , would not he fit 122 just exactly ?

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On the subject of Khaokor not looking fat in the fight. Why would he if he was tight at the weight?
Because of all d text i typed in this and my previous posts on this subject .
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:13 AM   #2358
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Re-scored the Villasana-Esparragoza match yet? You'd mentioned you were in the minority on that one, and anxious to see if you saw it any differently. It's one of those one could just as easily see it one way of the other depending on the style you tend to notice. I thought the draw was spot on.
I need to I do think it's because Esparragoza's flashier output earlier on swayed me....that's not something that I tend to get caught up in though so who knows, maybe I'll score it the same way again
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:30 AM   #2359
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r u not 1 of those claiming that d "intermediate" divisions r redundant ?

so now your claim is that 118 was 2 high 4 him but 122 (as opposed 2 126)
was 2 high ?

is not d definition of superbantamweight , d lowest division where those having 2 much trouble of making 118 belong ?

u ignored my comparison with d much bigger Espinosa .


possible , but usually those having trouble of making a certain weight have more trouble of making it when more time passes .


a bit possible , but that was already in d "initial" 3 lbs difference between them .


I doubt it , but it is possible .



as implied by your posts , they had more than 3 lbs separating between them as early as then .

As time passes , differences due 2 differences in lifestyles might increase , but back then i doubt that d difference between them was more than 3 lbs .


again , r u trying 2 imply that there should b a division between 118 and 122 ?

If he was such a huge 118 (of course that he was not since his identical twin reigned during d exact same time @ 115 and his opponent Luisito Espinosa whom really was a big 118 and later a successful 126 was not claimed 2b more drained at 118 here) , would not he fit 122 just exactly ?


Because of all d text i typed in this and my previous posts on this subject .
No Frank, I'm not suggesting there should be a weight class between bantam and super bantam. Seems to me that you're the one who's not getting it.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:06 AM   #2360
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:20 AM   #2361
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big **** does not imply ****soxuality .

small **** might help 2 get 2 window licking .

after all some organ needs 2 help excrete them strong urges .

and most of us know which size u own

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Old 09-14-2012, 06:24 AM   #2362
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What country are you from? Post on a board with your own language please, everything you say is nonsensical and makes me wish you were dead.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:24 AM   #2363
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No Frank, I'm not suggesting there should be a weight class between bantam and super bantam. Seems to me that you're the one who's not getting it.
u implied that Khaokor was 2 big 4 118 (since he was visibly not fat) , yet 2 small 4 122 , and that despite my 2 comparisons with his reigning identical twin at 115 and his opponent both at d same time he was supposedly drained .

i also never claimed that i was sure that he was not drained , just that even drained fighters do not collapse as soon as d 1st rd without even getting hit .
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:26 AM   #2364
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:04 PM   #2365
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FRIDAY MOTHER****ERS! In honour of my first friday as a married man, I let the wife nap so I could watch some boxing

First up, Martinez vs Pavlik. I hadn't sat through that whole fight yet and damn it was pretty good. I wanted to gear up for this Saturday (anyone in Canada on the weekend, swing by my place) and this showed Martinez with all his brilliance...and all his flaws.

Rounds 1-4 were all sergio. Brilliant movement, straight lefts, stinging jabs. Just a master of distance...

Rounds 5-8 ...until Pavlik started to time him. Pavlik landed thudding jabs and tremendous right hands to the body. Seriously he adapted, which is something i thought him COMPLETELY incapable of doing. Looked like a grinding Pavlik victory until...

Rounds 9-12 ...Sergio digs deep and finds two massive *****. And a cut on Pavlik's face. Either way Sergio starts sitting on his punches, while maintaining elusiveness and basically destroys Pavlik. Seriously, I almost scored the 9th round 10-8. Just kicked the **** out of Kelly to win the title.

By the way, between this and Williams 2 I learned that HBO just ****ing hated Maravilla. Their commentary was horse**** and one sided
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:57 PM   #2366
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I can't tell youhow to live your life but assuming HBO commentary will always be biased against the fighter with less marquee value is a safe bet. Also congratulations.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:02 PM   #2367
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I can't tell youhow to live your life but assuming HBO commentary will always be biased against the fighter with less marquee value is a safe bet. Also congratulations.

thanks and it sucks cause i've spent years defending the commentary and i'm noticing how ****ing terrible it is recently
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:38 AM   #2368
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:11 AM   #2369
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What the hell?

Why fearless Ursua fought so timidly against feather fisted Tomori?!

Pretty sure Ursua was shocked to the core when he saw what his punches did to Zapata.
That fight changed Ursua forever.

There's no other logical explanation.

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Old 09-15-2012, 08:29 AM   #2370
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Congrats mate Your life is over
thanks flea and you sound like most of my buddies....guess the handjobs and surprising me with beer are over
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