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Old 01-24-2013, 06:59 PM   #3016
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Armstrong - Garcia

Armstrong fighting some Filipino guy at Welterweight. Another very impressive display by Hank. He reminds me a lot of Frazier, but faster, more agile, and with a more active right hand. Garcia seemed quite tough and threw in some uppercuts which is the obvious punch to throw against Armstrong when he's on the offensive, but he was being out-landed in the majority of exchanges. Armstrong was very good at finding room for his punches at close quarters. He must have been absolute hell to fight. You'd think he'd make for an easy target seeing as how offensive-minded he is, but he's constantly moving his head.
Are you sure that's not their draw at middleweight. Garcia was the champion.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:10 PM   #3017
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Are you sure that's not their draw at middleweight. Garcia was the champion.
Absolutely sure. The two fought twice, first time at Welterweight in which Armstrong won a decision, and then later on at Middleweight. I watched their first bout. The footage wasn't in it's entirety but it seemed quite clear to me that Armstrong was the better man and probably deserved the verdict as winner.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:10 AM   #3018
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Some Filipino guy
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:12 AM   #3019
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and Jofre-Saldivar.
We can but dream with those two! Goin' on a hunt with BoranBKK in Thailand in the next couple of weeks so hopefully can unearth some 'rare' stuff then.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:58 AM   #3020
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We can but dream with those two! Goin' on a hunt with BoranBKK in Thailand in the next couple of weeks so hopefully can unearth some 'rare' stuff then.
Nice one, happy hunting!
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:15 AM   #3021
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I've tried a couple of times to score Harada-Medel II and never managed it with my one track mind, excellent fight though it is. I'm **** at scoring fights in general tbh and really don't envy judges.

Nonetheless, I've just re-watched it and managed to create a passable scorecard that I'm still not satisfied with. The point deduction always seemed a bit gash to me, though it isn't easy to tell by the footage, so being highly biased as I am, I've copied the AP and not included it on my final card.

Anyway, 144-143, in favour of Harada, though I could see it wider in his favour. Maybe even a draw or a one point swing the other way to Medel without the deduction, but something tells me I might be conning myself a tiny bit somewhere in the back of my mind. It was very hard to score and a lot of the rounds were close. Harada fought cleverer than first time without compromising his work rate and outworked Medel a lot of the time, even against the ropes where Medel was so dangerous. Medel though didn't help himself at times spending too much time trying to set traps and not punching. Still, he had a lot of success and blocked/parried a good bit of Harada's work. Hurt him on a few occasions too, but probably didn't get quite get enough going on a consistent basis. Might have been interesting to see if he'd hurt Harada earlier than what he did in the last round.

Harada: 3,5,6,8,11,12,13
Medel: 1,2,9,10,14,15
Even: 4 & 7

Great fight though.

Just found my scorecard

Harada Medel

Round 1 4 5
2 4 5
3 5 4
4 4 5
5 5 4
6 5 5
7 5 4
8 5 4
9 4 5
10 4 4 medel deducted a point
11 5 4
12 5 4
13 5 4
14 5 5
15 4 5

Total 69 67

So pretty close, 2 points in it with Medel losing 1.


I suppose those 2 rounds I scored even (6 and 14)could make a big difference depending how you interpret them.
funny enough you gave Harada the 6th and Medel the 14th.
Of the 2 you scored even I gave Medel the 4th and Harada the 7th. So there are no rounds we scored completely opposite.
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Don't know what happened to all my spaces!
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:42 AM   #3023
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Some Filipino guy
He wasn't Filipino?
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:44 AM   #3024
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He wasn't as random as your wording made him out to be was my point.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:47 AM   #3025
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He wasn't as random as your wording made him out to be was my point.
Yawn.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:22 AM   #3026
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Yawn.
Why 'yawn'? Or are you apeing my sometimes dismissive form?
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:31 AM   #3027
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Why 'yawn'? Or are you apeing my sometimes dismissive form?
Sorry, I just thought about Ketchel-Papke, and I suddenly yawned. Apologies.

Yeah, who the **** is Garcia? Never heard of him. I now know him as that Filipino fella who got pasted by Armstrong, the American fella.
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You do know who he is then. I did think at first you thought he was just 'some Filipino guy' and didn't realise his relevance to that era. Soz brut brut.
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reminded me of Duran in his book. He referred to Hiroshi Kobayashi as that Chinese guy.
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