the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

[Flea Man]

Some Filipino guy

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

and Jofre-Saldivar.

We can but dream with those two! Goin' on a hunt with BoranBKK in Thailand in the next couple of weeks so hopefully can unearth some 'rare' stuff then.

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

We can but dream with those two! Goin' on a hunt with BoranBKK in Thailand in the next couple of weeks so hopefully can unearth some 'rare' stuff then.

Nice one, happy hunting!

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by Tin_Ribs

I've tried a couple of times to score Harada-Medel II and never managed it with my one track mind, excellent fight though it is. I'm shit at scoring fights in general tbh and really don't envy judges.

Nonetheless, I've just re-watched it and managed to create a passable scorecard that I'm still not satisfied with. The point deduction always seemed a bit gash to me, though it isn't easy to tell by the footage, so being highly biased as I am, I've copied the AP and not included it on my final card.

Anyway, 144-143, in favour of Harada, though I could see it wider in his favour. Maybe even a draw or a one point swing the other way to Medel without the deduction, but something tells me I might be conning myself a tiny bit somewhere in the back of my mind. It was very hard to score and a lot of the rounds were close. Harada fought cleverer than first time without compromising his work rate and outworked Medel a lot of the time, even against the ropes where Medel was so dangerous. Medel though didn't help himself at times spending too much time trying to set traps and not punching. Still, he had a lot of success and blocked/parried a good bit of Harada's work. Hurt him on a few occasions too, but probably didn't get quite get enough going on a consistent basis. Might have been interesting to see if he'd hurt Harada earlier than what he did in the last round.

Harada: 3,5,6,8,11,12,13
Medel: 1,2,9,10,14,15
Even: 4 & 7

Great fight though.

Just found my scorecard

Harada Medel

Round 1 4 5
2 4 5
3 5 4
4 4 5
5 5 4
6 5 5
7 5 4
8 5 4
9 4 5
10 4 4 medel deducted a point
11 5 4
12 5 4
13 5 4
14 5 5
15 4 5

Total 69 67

So pretty close, 2 points in it with Medel losing 1.


I suppose those 2 rounds I scored even (6 and 14)could make a big difference depending how you interpret them.
funny enough you gave Harada the 6th and Medel the 14th.
Of the 2 you scored even I gave Medel the 4th and Harada the 7th. So there are no rounds we scored completely opposite.

[AlFrancis]

Don't know what happened to all my spaces!

[Addie]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Some Filipino guy

He wasn't Filipino?

[Flea Man]

He wasn't as random as your wording made him out to be was my point.

[Addie]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

He wasn't as random as your wording made him out to be was my point.

Yawn.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Addie

Yawn.

Why 'yawn'? Or are you apeing my sometimes dismissive form?

[Addie]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Why 'yawn'? Or are you apeing my sometimes dismissive form?

Sorry, I just thought about Ketchel-Papke, and I suddenly yawned. Apologies.

Yeah, who the **** is Garcia? Never heard of him. I now know him as that Filipino fella who got pasted by Armstrong, the American fella.

[Flea Man]

You do know who he is then. I did think at first you thought he was just 'some Filipino guy' and didn't realise his relevance to that era. Soz brut brut.

[AlFrancis]

reminded me of Duran in his book. He referred to Hiroshi Kobayashi as that Chinese guy.

[Flea Man]

[natonic]

Harry Arroyo W10 Robin Blake - I had this 6-4 for Arroyo and that is about as close as it could be i think. Seems like a couple rounds I gave to Blake could have gone either way. No reason for Blake to be whining about the decision after the fight right next to the always classy Arroyo. Blake was good, but never found a way to deal with guys like Arroyo and Crawley who had a distinct spped/reflex advantage. He was a very good combination puncher and well schooled but couldn't let his hands go against these guys. This was a Gil Clancy announced fight and in every single orthodox vs southpaw fight he ever called he mentions the battle of the footwork and getting the lead foot outside of the opponent. Arroyo won this battle but his abillity to slide to his right really thwarted any Blake onslought. Blake needed to press this fight more and try to turn it into a brawl. He wasn't outboxing Arroyo. Good fight. Arroyo wasn't great but very good and enjoyable to watch.

Eusebio Pedroza vs Hector Carrasquilla TKO 11 - Did not bother to score but Pedroza controlled this fight. Carrasquilla brought that same rythmic, herky jerk attack like a lot of the Panamanians but Pedroza was just much smoother. I put this as one of my favorite Pedroza efforts with the Ford fight being tops. He showed some finishing ability which faded later in his title reign. Great fighter. Reminds me of Hagler and Gomez in that I think of them as 80's fighters but some of their best work was late 70's. Also got me to thinking of Ali, Monzon, Pedroza as guys who successfully could do the pull back with hands down move. Seems Pedroza tended to do it totally with upper body while keeping his feet stationary. I'm thinking he did not give ground with his feet when doing this, therefore not giving his opponent room to press forward and gain momentum for a thunderous hook. As opposed to say Curry against McCallum who both pulled back with his head as well as moved back with his feet, allowing McCallum to step in. Probably overthinking this, but interesting stuff nonetheless.
Good to see more of Pedroza at this stage of his career. Thanks to Flea for this upload.

[Hoshi]

Watched Margarito vs Mosley, Corrales vs Mayweather and Taylor vs Wright.

Nice to see Mosley do what he did. Gonna have to go rewatch a few of his others.

Damn Mayweather was quick back then. Really hard to pin down.

Taylor vs Wright was really entertaining. Taylor seemed to really bother him due to the size and power. But Wright a much better technician.