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Old 03-29-2013, 12:14 PM   #3481
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Featherweight of course. But big Davey Moore was class and not thrown in too early with Duran without the benefit of hindsight. We've seen Duran's career progression, if that happened today we'd likely pick Moore to outwork Duran.

A relatively low number of pro' bouts but had faced some stellar competition already and had a long, storied amateur career when that actually meant something in terms of turning over.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:24 PM   #3482
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I meant more who do you like to watch...
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:45 PM   #3483
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Dominick Guinn vs Michael Grant , 4 at least d 2nd time. Guinn fought well, was aggressive and physical, albeit clean. Grant did connect flush 1 or 2 times and hurt/wobbled Guinn whom recovered quite quickly.
Pity 4 him that he fought really stupid vs James Toney. Maybe he was overawed by Toney's per4mance vs shot Holyfield.

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Old 03-29-2013, 02:18 PM   #3484
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I meant more who do you like to watch...
Well there isn't much of featherweight Moore going around, but every time I've watched him I've been impressed. Very quick fighter, people would be going mental if he was about today.
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:37 AM   #3485
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What if Arguello had Payakaroon's legs?
Have you seen Ji-Won Kim in action yet, Flea?

His style is easy on the eye - lefty, fast hands, wings his shots a bit, some athletic ability, pretty average defense.

Ji-Won Kim vs Rudy Casicas/Bobby Berna - mutual knockdowns, good knockouts - fun little fights.


Resume - Loi > Calzaghe.
H2H - not enough Loi footage.


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Old 03-31-2013, 06:11 PM   #3486
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Just watched Flea's Laguna - Ramos. What a great fight, I found it really hard to score with so much happening and so many swings in each rd. Anyway I had it 77-75 Ramos up until the end of the 8th.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:16 PM   #3487
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Vernon Forrest UD12 Raul Frank

Bad. Pretty bad, really. The first one was better on account of the horrific cut. This was bad enough that I did ironing whilst it was on and felt quite engaged. Boring fight, and there aren't many at this sort of level.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:23 PM   #3488
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Vernon Forrest UD12 Raul Frank

Bad. Pretty bad, really. The first one was better on account of the horrific cut. This was bad enough that I did ironing whilst it was on and felt quite engaged. Boring fight, and there aren't many at this sort of level.
Well thats a fight im not going to watch so

if you've ever watched Norwood-Marquez, probably surpasses this fight, not only do you have a horrible clash of styles and zero activity, you've got one of the dirtiest SOB's in Norwood to enter the ring in this era in it
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:55 AM   #3489
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Gaspar Ortega-Jorge Fernandez would have been the greatest fight ever!
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:36 AM   #3490
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OK guys I'm softening my stance on official results, I feel they are more important than I previously considered.

Basically I would hold my own card above the result no matter how close, now I think if it can be scored for the man who got the official nod, the result should stand.

This is my list of controversial fights I've scored over the past and felt were worth keeping for future discussion.

If anyone can be ****d helping me out here, I'd like to know which should be in the category of "robbery" and which should be in the category of "official result is feasible"

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Adamek L12 Cunningham (u)
Adamek L12 Chambers (u)

Ali L15 Norton (u)
Ali W15 Young (o)

Alexander L12 Kotelnik (u)
Alexander L12 Matthyse (u)

Antuofermo L15 Hagler (u)

Barrera L12 Morales 2 (u)
Barrera L12 Marquez (o)

Basilio W15 Saxton 1 (u)

Bowe L12 Holyfield 2 (o)

Byrd W12 oquendo (o)
Byrd D12 Golotan (o)
Byrd W12 McCline (o)

Castillo L12 Mayweather (o)

Camacho L12 Mancini (close)
Camacho L12 Rosario (close)
Camacho L10 Duran 1 (close)

Casamayor W12 Corrales (u)

Charles L10 Johnson (o)

Cunningham W12 Wlodarczyk (u)

Darchinyan W12 Mares (u)

De la Hoya W12 Quartey (o)
De la hoya W12 Mosley 2 (u)
De la hoya W12 Trinidad (u)
De la hoya L12 Sturm (u)

Diaz L12 Malignaggi (u)

Eubank L12 Benn 2 (u)

Esparagoza L12 Villasana (close)

Freitas W12 Casamayor (o)

Foreman L12 Briggs (o)
Foreman D12 Schulz (u)

Foster L15 Ahumada (u)

Froch L12 Kessler (o)
Froch W12 Dirrell (o)

Garcia L10 Armstrong (close)

Griffith L15 Rodriguez 3 (u)

Hagler L12 Leonard (o)

Harada W15 Kingpetch (close)

Hernandez W12 Ross (o)

Holyfield L12 Lewis 1 (u)
Holyfield L12 Moorer (o)

Holmes W12 Witherspoon (o)
Holmes W15 Williams (o)
Holmes L15 Spinks 1 (o)

Hopkins L12 Taylor 1 (o)
Hopkins W12 Mercado (u)
Hopkins L12 Calzaghe (o)

Huck D12 Afolabi 1 (u)
Huck D12 Afolabi 2 (o)
Huck D12 Arslan (u)
Huck W12 Lebedev (o)

Judah L12 Matthyse (u)

Leonard L12 Hearns 2 (u)

Martinez W12 Cintron (u)
Martinez W12 Williams 1 (u)

Marquez W12 John (u)
Marquez W12 Pac 1 (u)
Marquez L12 Pac 2 (o)

Morales L12 Barrera 1 (u)
Morales L12 Barrera 3 (o)

Mullings D12 Castillejo (u)

Nelson L12 Fenech 1 (u)

Norton W15 Young (o)
Norton L15 Holmes (o)

Norwood L12 Marquez (u)

Ottke L12 Reid (u)
Ottke L12 Mitchell (u)

Pacquiao L12 Marquez 3 (u)
Pacquiao W12 Bradley (u)

Pascal L12 Hopkins 1 (u)

Pedroza W15 Taylor (o)

Peter L12 Toney 1 (u)

Povetkin W12 Huck (o)

Ramirez L12 Whittaker 1 (u)

Randall W8 Chavez (close)

Rosario W12 Camacho (close)

Ruiz W12 Valuev 1 (u)
Ruiz L12 Golota (u)

Shibata L15 Marcel (u)

Spinks L15 Holmes 2 (u)

starling W12 Breland 1 (u)

Tarver W12 Johnson 1 (u)

Taylor D12 Hopkins 2 (u)

Toney L12 Tiberi (u)
Toney W12 McCallum 1 (o)
Toney L12 McCallum 2 (u)
Toney W12 Johnson (o)
Toney W12 Thadzi (u)

Tua L12 Rahman 2 (u)

Valuev L12 Holyfield (u)

Whittaker W12 Chavez (u)
Whittaker L12 De La Hoya (o)

Williams L12 Lara (u)

Wright W12 Vargas (u)

Zarate W15 Pintor (u)

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Old 04-03-2013, 11:48 AM   #3491
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You need to get on Kalule vs Gregory as soon as possible luf, one of those truly controversial must be seen and scored sort of fights.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:53 AM   #3492
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You need to get on Kalule vs Gregory as soon as possible luf, one of those truly controversial must be seen and scored sort of fights.
Now, now!
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:54 AM   #3493
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Now, now!
I'm working division by division so that's gonna be a bit off yet but I'll add it to my list
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:05 PM   #3494
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I'm working division by division so that's gonna be a bit off yet but I'll add it to my list
Know, I was saying 'now, now' to Lora as in 'leave it out'.

I implore you to never watch it. I wish I'd taken Bujia's advice and not listened to mante'
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:06 PM   #3495
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Know, I was saying 'now, now' to Lora as in 'leave it out'.

I implore you to never watch it. I wish I'd taken Bujia's advice and not listened to mante'
haha I get ya, good man
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