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Old 08-20-2011, 04:13 PM   #1051
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Toney v Johnson

1: 10-9 close round but Toney fights well behind the jab landing some nice counter hooks and inside uppercuts.
2: 8-10 big start to the round by johnson with a good solid knockdown. toney finishes the round decently though.
3: 10-9 another close round with two slippery slicksters defending really well. Toney fights slightly better behind the jab and edges it for me.
4: 10-9 good round for toney boxing behind his jab landing some big hooks on reggie.
5: 9-10 good round from johnson who picks off some very nice clean shots.
6: 10-9 good close tactical round with toney getting the nod due to better shots coming from him.
7: 9-10 strong finish by toney but reggie controlled the action for the most part behind his jab.
8: 10-9 good round for toney who lands some big shots on johnson.
9: 10-9 very good round with great counter punching exchanges from both men, toney's shots slightly harder.
10: 9-10 more cautious round that seemed to be fought at johnson's pace as he landed some beautiful shots.
11: 9-10 johnson just edges the round with some great defence.
12: 10-9 good finish by toney who matches johnson's defence with some very accurate shots.

114-113

note - this was such a close fight on a round by round basis, a lot of the rounds had very little in them. very underrated fight.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:47 PM   #1052
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Erbito Salavarria vs Susumu Hanagata II

Round 1- 10-10
Round 2- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 3- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 4- 10-9 Salavarria
Round 5- 10-9 Salavarria
Round 6- 10-9 Salavarria
Round 7- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 8- 10-9 Salavarria
Round 9- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 10- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 11- 10-9 Salavarria
Round 12- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 13- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 14- 10-9 Hanagata
Round 15- 10-9 Salavarria


Hanagata - 8 rounds
Salavarria- 6 rounds


1 even....

very close fight !!!!!
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:32 PM   #1053
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toney v mccallum 1

1: 9-10 the body snatcher jabs his way to an early round.
2: 10-9 much better by toney who opens up and lands some good shots making mike miss and look clumsy.
3: 9-10 close round with the edge just going to mike who dictated large parts of the round on the outside.
4: 10-9 mike's jabbing on the outside doesn't have the same effect as james makes him miss and nails him with counter hooks.
5: 10-9 toney defending superbly this round seeming to control the pace to his liking.
6: 9-10 brilliant boxing by mike who picks and times his shots beautifully this round.
7: 10-9 great defence and reflexes by toney this round who picks off a lot of counter shots after making mike miss.
8: 9-10 hotly contested round with some great body work coming from mike, toney lands a great combo about the 2 minute mark but loses the round.
9: 9-10 brilliant round that was very even, mike's ring generalship just gives him the edge as they both landed clean effective shots.
10: 10-9 toney neutralises mike's attack this round whacking him with some hard counters throughout.
11: 10-9 another great defensive display by toney who is doing a great "hit and don't be hit" display.
12: 10-9 huge finish by toney who really hurts mike with some massive counters but mike's chin holds up to the punishment.

115-113
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Old 08-23-2011, 06:35 PM   #1054
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Ricardo Lopez UD12 Pretty Boy Lucas

10-2 Lopez

LUCAS: 1,8
LOPEZ: The rest


To one sided to be really interesting I like the way Lucas comes at his unsolvable problem. Firmly outboxed in the first round he actually nicks it by landing a hard flush left hook nearer the end of the round, but Lopez asumes near total control in the second. He starts the process of taking away Lucas's jab, which, by the end of the fight, is nearly non-existant. He coutners with drilling left-hooks. Meanwhile, he doesn't forget his own jab which is in control in those moments Lucas goes back.

In the third and fourth Lucas tries his first earnest plan, backpedallng and trying to land jabs in occasional stands or going away. Lopez now adds to his counter-left hook a weird, improvised dippng right hand, not a normal punch for Lopez. By the fifth, Lopez is in his grove, adding hooks and uppercuts to his jab lead.

In the sixth, Lucas changes up again, fighting aggressively and does reasonably well with a forceful approach until Lopez buckles his legs and sengs him staggering across the ring with a lead right left uppercut combo. This puts an apparently now planless Lucas back on the move again. So in the seventh, Lucas tries to mix it up, backpedalling away speedily whenever he feels something he doesn't like before standing his ground to jab or punch when he sees an opening. It strips him of all his countering ability, but it does force Lopez to start boxing more conservatively. Lucas has a share of the round until Lopez lands an horrific left hook to the body that drops Lucas's guard and makes both his back-pedalling and his fighting uncertain.

In the eighth Lucas comes bulling straight out and into Lopez and forces Lopez onto the defensive in earnest. Landing fewer flush than pushed and clipping shots he outlands Lopez for the first time in any round. Again, he has all his momentun taken way, this time as Lopez beautifully slips a jab and then counters with a trailing uppercut, but Lucas arguably did enough to shade this one. In the ninth, Lopez lands his first hyper-aggressive attack, feeling Lucas out for the KO. A short, clippng right costs Lucas his legs, but he reclaims them and goes back to fighting on the run.

Lopez then boxes out the fight reasonably conservatively, picking his spots but not pushing it. Lucas wsa very very brave and superbly conditioned. He was so outclassed though that his final push in the twelvth was fought for the whole three minutes at Lopez's choice of pace.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:16 PM   #1055
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Ruslan Chagaev MD12 John Ruiz.

If there was ever a clearer sign that globalisation had well and truly arrived in boxing by '06, how about the enterance songs for these two? Ruiz, a supposed American, arrvies first to what seemed to be a Peurto Rican love ballad, quickly followed by Ruslan Chagaev, accompanied by his limited English and the world's whitest entourage, nodding his head rythmically to Eminem. Sometimes ring-walks give something of the fight to come, and this didn't bode well, but actually this is a really good fight. I promise.

The first round seems to hint at one thing, as Ruiz throws more in volume and dominates the range, forcing the fight inside where the two swap decent body shots, whilst Chagaev takes the sting out of Ruiz's stuff with his high guard and counters with the rounds hardest shots, two straight lefts. A close first round is followed by Ruiz's best of the fight, he lands two hard uppercuts, and one great headbutt, but Chagaev opens really aggressivey in the third only for Ruiz to bull back with his own shots, mainly bodwork. So Chagaev starts working on his range, moving to keep the fight out, or pushing Ruiz back with his jab. When he throws his first right hook of the night, Ruiz looks troubled.

Chagaev's best is the fourth, in which he lands evry punch in the book, bringing Ruiz forwards into traps by coming squre and even momentarily switching to orthodox to land bruising left hooks to the body. At mid-range he is throwing sharp punches with both hands, Ruiz looks mived, and he cannot even domnate inside as Chagaev outworks him to make even those exchanges 50-50.

Ruiz has stopped offering any real resistance to the Chagaev jab by the end of the fith, and apart from two right uppercuts inside, has no success for the entire round. A straight left buckles Ruiz's knees at the end of the round. Ruiz re-instates his jab in round 6 and Chagaev looks momentarily bemused but he hammers back in with the one-two ad has his man bleeding from the nose. Ruiz has success in forcing Chagaev to the ropes for the first time since the second, but doesn't seem strong enough to keep him there.

In the seventh and eigth, Chagaev can't miss wit the one-two and starts to supplant the jab with the straight. Teeing off in earnest in the 7th, Ruiz is genuinely hurt and momentarily flailing before grabbing on. The signs are that the fight is still on and Ruiz picks up his first round since the second in the 10th before adding the 11th. Chagaev looks tired, but makes a rousing comeback in the 12th to close it out.

I scored it 9-3 to Chagaev

RUIZ: 2, 10, 11
CHAGAEV: 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,12

Ruiz was basically outclassed.

What judge Jesus Cova was smking (115-114 Ruiz) i'll never know, but the other cards (116-112 & 117-111) were OK. The public scored it 8-4, disagreeing with me only on the first, which was indeed very close.


Really, you should try it, I really like this fight.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:46 PM   #1056
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Johnny Bredahl vs Nobuaki Naka

Round 1-10-9 Bredahl
Round 2-10-9 Bredahl
Round 3-10-9 Bredahl
Round 4-10-8 Bredahl
Round 5-10-9 Bredahl
Round 6-10-9 Naka
Round 7-10-9 Bredahl
Round 8-10-9 Bredahl
Round9- 10-9 Bredahl
Round 10-10-9 Naka
Round 11- 10-9 Bredahl
Round 12- 10-9 Bredahl

very good performance by Bredahl !
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:18 AM   #1057
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Helenius-Liakhovich '11

Round 1: L 10-9

Round 2: L 10-9

Round 3: L 10-9

Round 4: L 10-9

Round 5: L 10-9

Round 6: L 10-9

Round 7: L 10-9

Round 8: H 10-8 (Liakhovich down)

Round 9: Helenius brutally ends it with a powerful combination.

Total: Liakhovich 78-73

Sergei took the first the 7 rounds, on the offensive, out-jabbing & out-fighting the bigger man, pressing forward & working the body to grind him down, & landing some decent hooks up close. However, Liakhovich suffered a broken nose quite early.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:56 AM   #1058
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Payao Poonterat Vs Jiro Watanabe I

Poonterat: 1; 2; 3; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8;

Watanabe: 9; 10; 11; 12

Watanabe was stripped for taking on Poonterat in a unification bout rather than his countryman Khaosai, who wasn't much at the time anyway.

1-3; Watanabe trying jut to snatch rounds. The Thai is getting the better of it with his well-timed counters.

4-6; much of the same. Poonterat is a straight-up fighter, not a bad counter puncher at all, not your usual awkward Muay Thai convert as he made the change quickly and won Olympic Bronze at Montreal. Whenever Watanabe actually tries to up his game, his fellow titlist does the better work. Nothing mind-blowing from the Thai, Jiro just isn't doing enough. Really lackidaisical, even for him.

7-9; in the 9th Watanabe gets going, timing his right hook well and buzzing Poonterat briefly late and following up his assault to take the round.

10&11; Watanabe starting to boss it now, landing stiff and sharp counters and doing the much better work.

12; Both men come out and give it their all and there is some great action in this round, with both men countering well in the pocket. But it's the Jap' that does the most damage, landing more shots with more authority.

Poonterat 116-112 Watanabe
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:10 PM   #1059
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I've just watched the Vasquez/Marquez trilogy for the 1st time & an absolutly superb trio of battles. I've had the disk for about 18 months & never got around to watching it. I never score fights 1st time i watch then as i get to engrossed in the action so with regard to the 3rd fight which was most definetly a contender for fight of the year (Maybe was?) alongside Cotto/Margo. It was an SD 114/111, 111/114, 113/112 for Vasquez & an incredible last round with Marquez getting a standing count with 12 seconds left. Has anyone else seen this epic & disagreed with the final scoring.

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Old 08-28-2011, 09:56 PM   #1060
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I re-watched today Pernell Whitaker vs Azumah Nelson.....very good performance by Pernell, and a good fight...

Round 1- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 2- 10-9 Nelson
Round 3- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 4- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 5- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 6- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 7- 10-9 Nelson
Round 8- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 9- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 10- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 11- 10-9 Whitaker
Round 12- 10-8 Nelson (Whitaker lost a point)
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:17 PM   #1061
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Marquez/Pacquiao I

10 point must:

1) 6-10
2) 9/10
3) 10/9
4) 10/9
5) 10/9
6) 10/9
7) 9/10
10/9
9) 9/10
10) 9/10
11) 10/9
12) 9/10 ...111/114 for Pacquiao....judges: 115/110, 110/115, 113/113.

Marquez/Pacquiao II

10 point must:

1) 10/9
2) 10/9
3) 8/10
4) 9/10
5) 10/9
6) 10/9
7) 10/9
10/9
9) 9/10
10) 9/10
11) 10/9
12) 10/9 ...115/112 for Marquez....judges: 115/112, 112/115, 113/114.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:38 PM   #1062
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I've just watched the Vasquez/Marquez trilogy for the 1st time & an absolutly superb trio of battles. I've had the disk for about 18 months & never got around to watching it. I never score fights 1st time i watch then as i get to engrossed in the action so with regard to the 3rd fight which was most definetly a contender for fight of the year (Maybe was?) alongside Cotto/Margo. It was an SD 114/111, 111/114, 113/112 for Vasquez & an incredible last round with Marquez getting a standing count with 12 seconds left. Has anyone else seen this epic & disagreed with the final scoring.

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Vasquez-Marquez III was indeed fight of the year in '08. Deservedly so, too.

Final round was very reminiscent of Chacon-Limon IV (Marquez didn't hit the canvas completely like Limon, but most certainly would have were it not for the ropes.) And it sealed the deal on most people's cards at the time. Not too much debate about the official decision, either. Most people agreed it was close, but that Vasquez's late rush was enough for him to get the nod.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:59 PM   #1063
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Wow.

Greatest fight i've ever seen.
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:56 PM   #1064
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Wow.

Greatest fight i've ever seen.
Yep, right up there for me as well. Vasquez in the last round Unbelievable!!!

McGrain, I know you're somewhat of a Watanabe aficionado; how did you score the first Poonterat fight?
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:52 PM   #1065
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Never get bored of seeing mention of Vasquez-Marquez III. That trilogy, if it weren't for premature endings to the first two fights, would be secure in history as literally the greatest thing ever to happen in the sport. Some of us love pure boxing, some of us love fighting, some of us like a blend of both. Well, those three fights, and the third especially, cannot possibly fail to have boxing fans of all types with their jaws around their knees. Astonishing stuff. Sometimes in boxing, the most dramatic fights aren't those of the best quality, in terms of boxing skills, because they get slung through the window first. But that third fight...hell's ****ing teeth.

Anyhoo, some recent fights which I've only posted becasue in the process of cleaning up I found these cards on scraps of paper lying about

Cotto 116-113 Mosley

Fairly clear. Mosley's career, Margarito aside, has been markd by this timidness ever since the first Forrest fight. I dunno why. He looks like god himself during parts of the first DLH bout. What happeend to that Mosley?

Hopkins 114-111 Mercado, their first, held in Quito.

The composure that Hopkins took to this fight in a bullring in Ecuador was really a good indication of what a 46 year old Hopkins might be like. A robbery of moderate scale, though not as bad as the Pascal draw. Hopkins would have taken this anywher eelse on the planet, but with the knockdowns and the odd close round here and there...

Mayweather 115-113 De La Hoya

Mayweather took the last four to grab this by a distance greater than the score suggests. A clinic of effective economy overcoming ineffective aggression, though against Pacquaio - if it happens - he will need to demonstrate more activity before the later rounds. That fight will be Pac KO or Mayweather UD. No Pactards or Flomos allowed in to ruin this thread, by the way.

Young 116-110 Foreman

Dull until that incendiary 7th, which is surely one of the great rounds of all time. FOTY though? 1977 must have been a quiet year...Young was a fella who would have been a star if judges had looked more fondly upon him at a couple of stages in his career.

May very well now sit down to Yuh - De Marco seeing as the wife is at her sister's...
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