the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

[El Bujia]

Lora tooled him something fierce, though. That's the thing with Davila, even in the few fights where he was clearly out-classed (Gomez and Lora) he still gives a good account of himself. Never looks anything other than a very technically skilled boxer.

[Boxed Ears]

Davila is like a lower-level Fernie Davey-boy Saucedo and Lora like a sloppy, weak, sad (by comparison) Chris John. Good fighters though!

[lora]

[lora]

Right, a bunch of random footage has been plucked from my appallingly stored collection to be watched and then uploaded to youtube.

Turns out it's mostly sixties stuff.I'll list the fights leave things for a few hours to let anyone interested say what they would like to see.If no one replies i'll just put one up randomly.


Benny Paret vs Luis Federico Thomson 1 and 2
Johnny Famechon vs Harada 2
Carlos Ortiz vs ISmael Laguna 3
Horacio Accavallo vs Hiroyuki Ebihara 2
Lionel Rose vs Chucho Castillo
PwN Kingpetch vs Pascual Perez 1
Salvatore Burruni vs Pone Kingpetch
Horacio Accavallo vs Ebihara 1 H\L
Accavallo vs Katsuyoshi Takayama H\L
Hiroyuki Ebihara vs Jose Severino
Fighting Harada vs Bernardo Caraballo

[salsanchezfan]

Originally Posted by lora

Right, a bunch of random footage has been plucked from my appallingly stored collection to be watched and then uploaded to youtube.

Turns out it's mostly sixties stuff.I'll list the fights leave things for a few hours to let anyone interested say what they would like to see.If no one replies i'll just put one up randomly.


Benny Paret vs Luis Federico Thomson 1 and 2
Johnny Famechon vs Harada 2
Carlos Ortiz vs ISmael Laguna 3
Horacio Accavallo vs Hiroyuki Ebihara 2
Lionel Rose vs Chucho Castillo
PwN Kingpetch vs Pascual Perez 1
Salvatore Burruni vs Pone Kingpetch
Horacio Accavallo vs Ebihara 1 H\L
Accavallo vs Katsuyoshi Takayama H\L
Hiroyuki Ebihara vs Jose Severino
Fighting Harada vs Bernardo Caraballo

Wow........well, my vote would be Rose-Castillo!

[salsanchezfan]

Originally Posted by lora

Right, a bunch of random footage has been plucked from my appallingly stored collection to be watched and then uploaded to youtube.

Turns out it's mostly sixties stuff.I'll list the fights leave things for a few hours to let anyone interested say what they would like to see.If no one replies i'll just put one up randomly.


Benny Paret vs Luis Federico Thomson 1 and 2
Johnny Famechon vs Harada 2
Carlos Ortiz vs ISmael Laguna 3
Horacio Accavallo vs Hiroyuki Ebihara 2
Lionel Rose vs Chucho Castillo
PwN Kingpetch vs Pascual Perez 1
Salvatore Burruni vs Pone Kingpetch
Horacio Accavallo vs Ebihara 1 H\L
Accavallo vs Katsuyoshi Takayama H\L
Hiroyuki Ebihara vs Jose Severino
Fighting Harada vs Bernardo Caraballo

Edit: Double post.......

[El Bujia]

Yeah, I second Rose/Castillo. All of those are great. Ebihara, Accavallo, Caraballo, Burruni, let's see some of that.

[lora]

Fucking cheap piece of shit DVD cases.I converted it ready to upload, only to notice after it had finished that the damn disc is completely broken from halfway through round ten onward.

Buying the cheapest stuff available has backfired badly it seems.A lot of the cases barely hold the DVD's properly and i've moved from 3 rented properties in the past 3 years so they've been bashed around a fair bit recently.

I thought the immortal clash between Kalule and Kalambay i tried to upload a while back(and found it was scratched to bits) would have been a one off, but since then there's been a number of Frank Bruno, prince charles williams and Bobby Czyz fights i had gone to watch that were totally ruined.

i can do without that shit anyway i thought, but now this is just pissing me off.Looks like i'll have to seriously go through verything i have that were in cheap dodgy cases and see what's broken.It'll take a fucking age.

Anyway, the fight is ready to be put on youtube but crashes halfway through round ten.I'll still put it up if you guys really want to see some of it, but i don't think it does the fight justice not to see it all.

[El Bujia]

Eh fuck it, put it up anyway. I just wanna see them box each other.

[lora]

Fair enough.In the process of putting up the Accavallo ebihara rematch, which thankfully seems to be fine.I'll do it after that.

[Vic-JofreBRASIL]

Originally Posted by lora

Fair enough.In the process of putting up the Accavallo ebihara rematch, which thankfully seems to be fine.I'll do it after that.

Very good.....I´m anxious to see more of Acavallo....thanks..

[Flea Man]

Accavallo-Ebihara I please; only have the 2nd fight

[Boxed Ears]

Larry Holmes VS Lucien Rodriguez
1982-11-26
WBC and Linear Heavyweight Title on the line

12-0, in rounds, plus a KD for Larry. This is coming off the back of the Cobb fight, where he won every single round of fifteen, on my card, but against a much physically larger and stronger, more durable man. That said, he didn't have the same punching impact over LR, oddly. And he did land some serious leather on him. LR comes in as the European champ. Probably his actually having a defense contributed to the punches not mashing him up as much as Cobb.


R1: Larry stiff-arming Rodriguez, popping the jab and picking off shots by throwing his arms out, not letting hooks come near him. Rodriguez was completely controlled by the champ, no question. Obvious Holmes round.

R2: Holmes, clearly, again. This round, he's getting mean and sitting down on some big power shots, straights, uppercuts, crosses. He's letting LR know it's no bullshit, now.

R3: Holmes plays around with LR, stiff arming him and not getting called for it, hitting him whenever he feels like it with sharp straight right hands. LR is completely incapable of getting inside and his shots starting from the outside are simply picked off midway to their intended destination. This is such a typical Holmes domination, so far. LR is too small and outclassed to make himself matter, in this one.

R4: Commentator mentioned that Tex Cobb is back at their studio in NY and predicted Holmes would stop LR in this round. He doesn't, but he does stiff-arm and batter LR at will and this round LR gets closer with his lunging and seems to graze Holmes with some shots that Larry is turning away from, but when he gets hit back, it's flush. Holmes, sweeps the first four on my card. Nobody's card has a case to be any different, really. It's not hard to score.

R5: The stiff arming in this round is egregious, honestly. I can't blame Larry, because this is all on the ref. Larry wasn't doing anything under the radar, here, both arms even, blatantly, longer than a split second, for sure, and throughout the round. Carlos Padilla should be on his ass but he hasn't warned him at all, that I've noticed. This round was an obvious warning-call he missed, imo. Holmes still landing flush at will. Toward the end of the round Larry incites his home-state crowd by the loud call of "HOOOOOOOOOOO!" or something like it, while standing in front of LR, then punches him up. LR got in a little, I think. But, mostly got punched.

R6: Larry easily deflects LR's attacks and lands his 1-2, puts him down with one of his well-timed right uppercuts at the end of the round. 1 knockdown in the fight, now. Holmes, all the way, every minute of every round, no problem. There is no case for another score.

R7: The best round for LR, by far, and he's still getting his shit pushed in. He connects far more than in any other round, but he eats some nasty shots to the head and body, including two of Larry's excellent right uppercuts, flush. That was a VERY good round, the crowd chanting "Laaaaaaa-rry! Laaaaaaa-rry!" Still, a Holmes round. Larry's shots were far more impactful. I use words like "impactful" even though the spell-checker on my browser doesn't recognize them.

R8: LR, the commentators keep making us very aware of, is sure to never stand up until it's time for the round to begin, conserving his energy. Larry takes a breather for most of this round, landing whenever he feels like taking a shot, and LR is content to be surviving now, after that last round, I think. Very inactive round until the final few seconds when Larry lays into him, because he felt the urge.

R9: Holmes has his way with LR again, landing an enormous, dead-on right hand, as part of a one-two and how it didn't drop this guy that Evangelista stopped three times, I have no idea. Then again, the man hadn't lost in a while and did take Dokes the distance before Larry and after those stoppage losses. Larry dropped it down on him though. 9-0.

R10: Holmes, again. Larry is so damned comfortable that at the beginning of the round, after an LR jab, he drops his hands, completely, smiles and begins chatting with someone ringside, Commentator (Albert?) says it's one of the judges. This isn't a brief quip, either. He's just casually chatting, smiling through his mouthpiece. LR...doesn't do anything. Larry lazily turns back, smiles at LR and walks to him, hands completely down. Then, he dominates the rest of the round. This is a breeze.

R11: Holmes, again. A lazier round for Larry, getting a bit sloppy in there, but LR can't do anything meaningful with it anyway. The crowd boos a bit at the end. They want a knockout. Amazing this dude has gotten to this part of the fight.

R12: I guess Holmes checked with his corner to see if he was winning. Serious or being a smartass? I don't know.

Larry now wants to close the show, giving the man a pasting, head and body, left and right, all over the place, with a little stiff-arm action, just because he apparently can. He couldn't finish this guy. LR just wasn't going down. Sometimes they get like that. They say "Of course, I know I'm not winning, but I'm STAYING and that's that". He made it out on his feet, never winning a single round. Commentator, I think, puzzling me, said round eleven was even. Well, not on my card, bitch.


*I believe this was Larry's first title fight scheduled for the 12-round distance, instead of 15.

*Commentators say during this fight that only now is Larry's jab being appreciated and rated amongst the best, like Ali and Liston.

*Commentators speculated over a lack of power, volume and finishing ability, due to an increase in Larry's weight. Actually, he weighed in about five or six pounds heavier from Cooney to Cobb and another four or five heavier from Cobb to LR, says the boxrec beast. Still, a shutout, even with a general sense of disappointment that he couldn't get the stoppage for his people or for his pretty excellent kayo ratio in title fights, up to that point in time.

*This is seen almost as a glorified tuneup for Witherspoon, by many, it's mentioned, but, they also thought Witherspoon might be a tuneup for Page...

[Flea Man]

Harada-Carabello has a quality first couple of rounds!

[El Bujia]

Well, I was in the process of re-scoring Leonard/Benitez for the first time in about 3-4 years before my goddamn idiot brother X'd out of it, now I don't know where the hell I was and my train of thought on the fight is lost, as I was also keeping my card written down on Word at the time. I know I had Leonard up 88-83 through 9 (6 rounds to Leonard including the 10-8, 2 rounds to Benitez, 1 round even). I'd forgotten just how damn good his jab was in this one. I'll have to continue scoring it tomorrow, or in all likelihood later tonight.

So far the fight hasn't been too much different than I remembered, except that Benitez didn't really get going until a bit later than I thought. I'm every bit as impressed with Leonard's performance as I was the first time, though, I know that much.

I'll do a play-by-play with anyone who wants to tell me that this fight was close on the scorecards. I've been watching as intently as possible, every little nuance, rewinding on occasion if I felt I'd missed something, etc. Leonard quite simply out-boxed the master boxer, both offensively and defensively. His jab was superb.