"Mikkel Kessler is likely the P4P number one boxer in the world right now."

[keure]

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

Right now that statement looks outlandish.

Tomorrow it will less so.

Kessler is the complete package.

He is perfectly balanced, durable, has high levels of fitness, powerful, solid reflexes, has a great mentality, is technically skilled, is fast.

He has physical gifts equal to any almost any fighter out there, and a level of skill equal to anyone out there.



Who has he beat?

Nobody. But it doesn't matter. You can see from the way he dominates his world class opponents he is the best in the world right now.


After tonight only a few people will have the mental flexibility to concede Kessler is the best boxer in the world right now.

Some people will be stubborn and will insist Mayweather or Pacquaio are the best boxing has to offer. They will never change their minds, ever perhaps. Even though Pacquaio was comprehensively out boxed by Marquez. They have been brainwashed by promoters and the media, many by Golden Boy and Bob Arum.


Andre Ward is a gold medallist and has barely lost a round in his career.

People will resort to knocking this great fighter down, because they fear Kessler. They will force themselves to ignore the fact that Kessler is a special fighter. Just like they try to convince themselves Juan Manuel Marquez is a special fighter, even though he struggled again Chris John and several other mediocre world level fighters. He can be outboxed and he outboxed Pacquiao, open your eyes.


Sure Pacquaio is more explosive and sure Mayweather is flashier and has more style. But Kessler a better all round fighter than either of them. Pacquaio has numerous weaknesses and is too open. Mayweather lacks work rate. He has to sit back and pick his shots.

Kessler can pick his shots on the back foot or on the front foot. He can force a fight in a way Mayweather can only dream of being able to.



I urge people to proclaim Mikkel Kessler P4P number one, NOW.

Not in hindsight after he beats elite fighter after elite, but before. Demonstrate your insight into the sport. Do not be afraid to go against the grain.

When we look back at this thread in 2 years time and you are seen to have proclaimed Mikkel Kessler pound for pound number one all the way back in November 2009 it will be known you have an elite level of understanding about the sport of boxing and are not just someone who listens to RING Magazine.

Just rank Mikkel Kessler as your P4P number one NOW.

You will only look an imbecile temporarily.



(just let me know if you wish to add your name to the list)

List of boxing experts proclaiming Mikkel Kessler pound for pound number 1:
China_hand_Joe - 20 November 2009
Iron Fist Joe - 20 November 2009

i feel like both kessler and ward are solid in terms of p4p skill however im going to reserve my judgement on these guys untill i watch the fight tonight. On this site they are both actuallly a little overrated... but its not their fault, kessler couldnt get any big fights due to promotional problems and ward hasnt fought anyone at all but it is early in his career

[Brickhaus]

The way Sartison just destroyed Bozic probably helps Kessler's case a bit as well.

[Abdullah]

nonsense

[pasky2000]

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

I am aware you are mocking me mate.



Regardless of that.

I would switch Pacquiao and Mayweather there mate

1. Mikkel Kesser
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Manny Pacquiao

All time:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Roy Jones
3. Tszyu (possibly)

I will remain objective, Kessler donsn't come into it on an all time basis.

Thank god you're objective

[Brit Sillynanny]

Thread starter .. ya moron .. hahahahaha

You can switch it but the truth is you couldn't recognize athletic talent any day of your life.

Always hyping the merely good (Joe C, Kessler, etc.) over the exceptional and talented.

What an idiot.

[Steak]

Don't look like it.

[Morrissey]

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

"Andre Ward is likely the P4P number one boxer in the world right now."

Right now that statement looks outlandish.

Tomorrow it will less so.

Ward is the complete package.

He is perfectly balanced, durable, has high levels of fitness, powerful, solid reflexes, has a great mentality, is technically skilled, is fast.

He has physical gifts equal to any almost any fighter out there, and a level of skill equal to anyone out there.



Who has he beat?

Only Kessler. But it doesn't matter. You can see from the way he dominates his world class opponents he is the best in the world right now.


After tonight only a few people will have the mental flexibility to concede Ward is the best boxer in the world right now.

Some people will be stubborn and will insist Mayweather or Pacquaio are the best boxing has to offer. They will never change their minds, ever perhaps. Even though Pacquaio was comprehensively out boxed by Marquez. They have been brainwashed by promoters and the media, many by Golden Boy and Bob Arum.


Mikkel Kessler is a great fighter and has barely lost a round in his career.

People will resort to knocking this great fighter down, because they fear Andre Ward. They will force themselves to ignore the fact that Ward is a special fighter. Just like they try to convince themselves Juan Manuel Marquez is a special fighter, even though he struggled again Chris John and several other mediocre world level fighters. He can be outboxed and he outboxed Pacquiao, open your eyes.


Sure Pacquaio is more explosive and sure Mayweather is flashier and has more style. But Kessler a better all round fighter than either of them. Pacquaio has numerous weaknesses and is too open. Mayweather lacks work rate. He has to sit back and pick his shots.

Ward can pick his shots on the back foot or on the front foot. He can force a fight in a way Mayweather can only dream of being able to.



I urge people to proclaim Andre Ward P4P number one, NOW.

Not in hindsight after he beats elite fighter after elite, but before. Demonstrate your insight into the sport. Do not be afraid to go against the grain.

When we look back at this thread in 2 years time and you are seen to have proclaimed Andre Ward pound for pound number one all the way back in November 2009 it will be known you have an elite level of understanding about the sport of boxing and are not just someone who listens to RING Magazine.

Just rank Andre Ward as your P4P number one NOW.

You will only look an imbecile temporarily.



(just let me know if you wish to add your name to the list)

List of boxing experts proclaiming Andre Ward pound for pound number 1:
China_hand_Joe - 20 November 2009
Iron Fist Joe - 20 November 2009

Another classic line delivered.

[Vengeance]

Lol

[sdsfinest22]

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

"Andre Ward is likely the P4P number one boxer in the world right now."

Right now that statement looks outlandish.

Tomorrow it will less so.

Ward is the complete package.

He is perfectly balanced, durable, has high levels of fitness, powerful, solid reflexes, has a great mentality, is technically skilled, is fast.

He has physical gifts equal to any almost any fighter out there, and a level of skill equal to anyone out there.



Who has he beat?

Only Kessler. But it doesn't matter. You can see from the way he dominates his world class opponents he is the best in the world right now.


After tonight only a few people will have the mental flexibility to concede Ward is the best boxer in the world right now.

Some people will be stubborn and will insist Mayweather or Pacquaio are the best boxing has to offer. They will never change their minds, ever perhaps. Even though Pacquaio was comprehensively out boxed by Marquez. They have been brainwashed by promoters and the media, many by Golden Boy and Bob Arum.


Mikkel Kessler is a great fighter and has barely lost a round in his career.

People will resort to knocking this great fighter down, because they fear Andre Ward. They will force themselves to ignore the fact that Ward is a special fighter. Just like they try to convince themselves Juan Manuel Marquez is a special fighter, even though he struggled again Chris John and several other mediocre world level fighters. He can be outboxed and he outboxed Pacquiao, open your eyes.


Sure Pacquaio is more explosive and sure Mayweather is flashier and has more style. But Kessler a better all round fighter than either of them. Pacquaio has numerous weaknesses and is too open. Mayweather lacks work rate. He has to sit back and pick his shots.

Ward can pick his shots on the back foot or on the front foot. He can force a fight in a way Mayweather can only dream of being able to.



I urge people to proclaim Andre Ward P4P number one, NOW.

Not in hindsight after he beats elite fighter after elite, but before. Demonstrate your insight into the sport. Do not be afraid to go against the grain.

When we look back at this thread in 2 years time and you are seen to have proclaimed Andre Ward pound for pound number one all the way back in November 2009 it will be known you have an elite level of understanding about the sport of boxing and are not just someone who listens to RING Magazine.

Just rank Andre Ward as your P4P number one NOW.

You will only look an imbecile temporarily.



(just let me know if you wish to add your name to the list)

List of boxing experts proclaiming Andre Ward pound for pound number 1:
China_hand_Joe - 20 November 2009
Iron Fist Joe - 20 November 2009

IM NOT SURE IF FARMBOXER OR THIS GUY HAVE THE LEAST CREDIBILITY ON ESB??

CHINA HAND JOE SHOULD RETIRE FROM ESB...HE IS ONLY GOOD FOR BULLSHIT ENTERTAINMENT POSTS WHEN IT COMES TO EUROPEAN FIGHTERS BEING THE BEST ETC...

UR AN IDIOT CHJ

[Lacyace]

Did anyone see how this guy changed the first post? Bwahahaha.

[lefthook89]

damn homie, damn.

[VX.Nefarious]

Probably

[sdsfinest22]

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

I am aware you are mocking me mate.



Regardless of that.

I would switch Pacquiao and Mayweather there mate

1. Mikkel Kesser
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Manny Pacquiao

All time:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Roy Jones
3. Andre Ward (possibly)

I will remain objective, you listing Kessler must be a sick joke.

YOUR PRETTY NEW TO BOXING....U SHOULD LEARN MORE ABOUT THE SPORT BEFORE TRYING TO PRETEND LIKE UR A KNOWLEDGABLE POSTER...UR ACTUALLY PRETTY STUPID WHEN IT COMES TO KNOWING FIGHTERS...U COULD NEVER BE A PROMOTER OR MGR CUZ U DONT KNOW HOW TO RECOGNIZE TRUE TALENT AS SHOWS FROM UR TOP 3 ATG

[Marnoff]

Ouch.

[Tszyu]

Joe Calzaghe is the best P4P fighter of alltime