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Old 09-25-2007, 04:25 PM   #16
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Clottey was giving MArgo a tough time and I for one completely believe his hand injury. He beat up corralles (rip) pretty bad too-even if diego was well above his weight class. Clottey may not be a top-top guy ...but he is no b leveler and would give most of the best WW a lot to handle. I think the same of collazo. It is a disgrace that the bid was 35K if Hatton Mayweather is 10 ill these guys should at least be splitting 500000.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:28 PM   #17
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Collazo UD.

Clottey is over rated by many and doesnt have the heart or skill to pull this one out unless Collazo has really been affected by his hand injury.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:29 PM   #18
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Clottey was giving MArgo a tough time and I for one completely believe his hand injury. He beat up corralles (rip) pretty bad too-even if diego was well above his weight class. Clottey may not be a top-top guy ...but he is no b leveler and would give most of the best WW a lot to handle. I think the same of collazo. It is a disgrace that the bid was 35K if Hatton Mayweather is 10 ill these guys should at least be splitting 500000.
yeah its a shame, but thats how this game goes. like the one poster said, its not a rich mans sport.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:29 PM   #19
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good fight if Clottey brings it
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:30 PM   #20
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I think Collazo wins an easy UD
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:33 PM   #21
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Collazo UD.

Clottey is over rated by many and doesnt have the heart or skill to pull this one out unless Collazo has really been affected by his hand injury.
clottey has heart, fought one handed against margo which (despite what amsterdam says) is a good, strong, and dangerous fighter. good strong, quick left hook too. I like when he triples up with it he catches people with that.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:34 PM   #22
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My point wasn't about the matchup anyhow. If this doesn't dispell some of the illusions about pro boxers being rich and well off nothing will.

These guys are as high profile as you get outside of champion/elite level. Yet they are making 17.5k for a fight. Take out what you pay for your training and manager costs. It ain't much.
You make a good point, AD. When people ask me how much boxers make, I usually answer, "not enough". For every million dollar purse there are hundreds of guys fighting for no more than a couple of hundred bucks per round, if that.

17.5 K is going to disppear fast one the expenses and taxes are taken out.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:36 PM   #23
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yeah it is, it just takes hard work to get to a level where you can become filthy rich
Unfortunately, it takes hard work and a lot more. Luck, image, the right connections, etc. Think of how long it took BHop to start making really good money. He had his purses in the neighborhood of 10 grand even after he became champ.

P.S. Love the avatar. You remain my favorite poster in that regard.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:41 PM   #24
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You make a good point, AD. When people ask me how much boxers make, I usually answer, "not enough". For every million dollar purse there are hundreds of guys fighting for no more than a couple of hundred bucks per round, if that.

17.5 K is going to disppear fast one the expenses and taxes are taken out.
I agree to an xtent with wat was said, But i do think you can make money in boxing. Collazo not really a good name, a decent boxer but he is not a "household name" i mean 17.5 is kind of low. But he aint really nobody. 2 me I think boxers can make it big, but you just have to take the right steps as in any sport.

Same shit, like Basketball some people have to join teh NBDL be4 they can make the NBA, or some players do the over seas route be4 they make it big. And then you ahve some players that come str8 in movie up in rank to get title shots.

Same in boxing some fighters have good amateur careers, get hired by a promotion company and they put them in positions to make it big. Others dont really have a good amateur career, so they might still get an agent but wont get pushed to fight top opposition as yet, (NBDL scenerio)
and some actually fight overseas to get exposure. The money is there, fighters just need to put themself in a position to get it. IMO
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:42 PM   #25
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I don't think Clottey is mentally strong enough to hang with Collazo. He'll get frustrated and eventually give up like he always does once collazo sets the pace and frustrated the hell out of him with movements and angles.
collazo to me seemed like the mentally weak one. he broke down during the mosley fight. Now mosley is elite and looked real sharp, but collazo was catching shane with the straight lefts. Clottey's loses were a bs DQ and a hand injury which he still fought through. I dont really consider those losses.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:46 PM   #26
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35K is a joke for these two fighter - but they both know that if they win this fight there are bigger pay days a head of them.

Clottey by KO.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:53 PM   #27
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Clottey cheated against Chico but he's not the only one to blame. It's the unorganized boxing commission that allows fighters to come in more than 15 pounds over the limit. Chico was fighting a super middleweight because Clottey came in at 170 on the night of the fight.
cmon man your reaching here. Its not cheating to me if they come in heavy like that. it means they are killing themselves to make weight and that will drain them. It does not come without a cost.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:54 PM   #28
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If it was the hand injury that caused him to lose, Collazo can use the same excuse as to why he lost to mosley. I think Collazo's toughness is underrated.

Watch the championship rounds against Hatton and tell me he isn't mentally tough.
yeah except collazo was never winning the fight and getting beat down and he knew it. he was still throwing left hans too btw which is why that excuse was bs.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:55 PM   #29
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thats more than what dana white pays chuck liddell...
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:59 PM   #30
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Clottey is a 2nd rate fighter, first of all. Collazo is a contender level and will defeat him, contrary to popular opinion on ESB, this will not be competitive in the slightest and there is no surprise it has no selling ability.

It is a FNF or undercard worthy bout, that's it.
Stop being stupid.

Clottey was leading against Baldo and Margo then issues came into play. Quite Vitali like I think.

Clottey is a good fighter.

I think Collazo should win the decision. He has the right style to beat Clottey.
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