If Douglas had decisioned Tyson - Page 2

cuchulain · 09-25-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chimba

Douglas has a Legacy??

Being the first man to beat Tyson, and to do it by KO when Mike was 24 and prime and damned near invincible.

That's definitely a legacy of sorts.

Zakman · 09-26-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

God, enough with this long count arguement. Its not the fighters fault, and Buster would have stood up in time had the ref counted fast. He was fine.

Exactly. That argument was bogus when King first tried to use it 17 years ago, and it hasn't gotten any more valid since!

hooligan · 09-26-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

God, enough with this long count arguement. Its not the fighters fault, and Buster would have stood up in time had the ref counted fast. He was fine.

nah buster aint fine he was aided with a long count and you know it

thesandman · 09-26-2007, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by box03

If you watch the fight between Douglas/Holyfield, Douglas was just out classed and when Douglas threw a lazy uppercut and missed Holyfield landed with a perfect counter hook. Theres no way Douglas took a dive in that fight in my opinion.

I don't think he took a dive.

I do think he got fat, didn't train, didn't really try, and was there purely for the money though.

And give up the long count shit. The ref could have counted as quick as he could have got the words out, and Douglas would have got up. He was watching the ref as a good fighter should.

the way some people carry on, it's as though the ref waited until Buster was OK.

Tysons count wasn't a whole lot quicker either. Difference is, ref could have counted to 20 for Mike, wouldn't have mattered.

LeonMcS · 09-26-2007, 03:27 AM

I thought Busters best bit of legacy was finally putting to rest the theory that getting pizza delivered to the sauna is a good way to lose weight.

rendog67 · 09-26-2007, 03:32 AM

it would not have affected his legacy it may have affected tyson though

Blacc Jesus · 09-26-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hooligan

nah buster aint fine he was aided with a long count and you know it

im cryin @ your avatar

surreal deal · 09-26-2007, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by He Hate Me

Better question, after the tyson knockdown of Douglas if the ref started his count on time tyson would have won.

thats a statement,not a question.
Also its been argued about plenty.this one hasnt.
i think the judges would have found a way to give it to Tyson somehow.

surreal deal · 09-26-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chimba

Armstrong didnt embarrass us with his actions later. He kept a dignified persona.

This is the same Buster who took a dive against Holyfield after all the adulation given to him

Armstrong couldnt take a dive though, because of the moons low gravity.

surreal deal · 09-26-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

God, enough with this long count arguement. Its not the fighters fault, and Buster would have stood up in time had the ref counted fast. He was fine.

beat me to it.
DK and the WBC tried that.Remember the backlash!

surreal deal · 09-26-2007, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakman

Exactly. That argument was bogus when King first tried to use it 17 years ago, and it hasn't gotten any more valid since!

sorry, ive paraphrased you there zak.

surreal deal · 09-26-2007, 05:29 AM

How about this question:
What would have happened if Buster was K.D just one minute into the round?
that would have been interestng.any thoughts?

DamonD · 09-26-2007, 05:49 AM

Buster wouldn't have won a UD, they would've fudged it (as they were already doing) to get Mike a gimme draw.

As for the 'long count' stuff, spare me...not only was Buster watching the ref intently from about the count of 3 and was ready to rise, but the ref did the same slow count for Mike (who was crawling about on the canvas for most of the count instead).

lefthook31 · 09-26-2007, 08:33 AM

I dont think it would have made much of a difference. Douglas was giving Tyson a shalacking the whole fight. The fact that anyone could have Tyson ahead in that fight is just a joke. Douglas did the right thing and went for the KO.

lefthook31 · 09-26-2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by box03

No he had a couple losses coming in, the winner of Mccall/Douglas got the opertunity to fight Tyson. I really believe Mccall would of beat Tyson that night as well.

I dont know about that. Douglas had way more skills than Mcall. He actually had a very good jab and right hand, he just never really had the fighting spirit he showed in the Tyson fight. Mcall was also a Tyson sparring partner, so Mcall mentally would not be prepared like Douglas was for Tyson, not to mention a unmotivated Douglas beat MCall rather easily.

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DamonD Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tavistock, England Posts: 10,385 vCash: 1000	Re: If Douglas had decisioned Tyson Buster wouldn't have won a UD, they would've fudged it (as they were already doing) to get Mike a gimme draw. As for the 'long count' stuff, spare me...not only was Buster watching the ref intently from about the count of 3 and was ready to rise, but the ref did the same slow count for Mike (who was crawling about on the canvas for most of the count instead).
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lefthook31 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: in a boxing gym near you Posts: 10,498 vCash: 1000	Re: If Douglas had decisioned Tyson I dont think it would have made much of a difference. Douglas was giving Tyson a shalacking the whole fight. The fact that anyone could have Tyson ahead in that fight is just a joke. Douglas did the right thing and went for the KO.
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