**Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out....**

Orishaman · 09-25-2007, 09:25 PM

Vitali and Maskaev took the easy way out....Vitali having Emeritus status and Maskaev might go that route as I await his statement soon as he will retire Emeritus also......embarrasing for boxing.....

Gerard · 09-25-2007, 09:38 PM

And they took a lot of time and progress out the HW division.

If it wasn't for that bullshit comeback, negotiations for Mask-Clit we would've had Sam Peters defending the WBC title a few times now. Instead all we got is a lot of inactivity of the WBC belt.

T.S. · 09-25-2007, 10:46 PM

Herniated discs in his back caused while training is the hard way out.
Maskaev is finished. He'll never be considered an ATG but hey, becoming WBC HW Champ by bashing Hasim Rahman into the canvas ain't bad bragging rights, over a couple of stoli's in a bar.

cuchulain · 09-26-2007, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Orishaman

Vitali and Maskaev took the easy way out....Vitali having Emeritus status and Maskaev might go that route as I await his statement soon as he will retire Emeritus also......embarrasing for boxing.....

Yeah, you tell it like it is.

eze · 09-26-2007, 02:36 AM

Fucking idiot I swear.

Mendoza · 09-26-2007, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by eze

Fucking idiot I swear.

Peter got lucky vs a washed up and off the juice James Toney in the first fight, and beat him second time. This means he's the #1 ranked man in the WBC? Amazing stuff.

Brickhaus · 09-26-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mendoza

Peter got lucky vs a washed up and off the juice James Toney in the first fight, and beat him second time. This means he's the #1 ranked man in the WBC? Amazing stuff.

It's silly to think that Toney has been "off the juice" at any point since he was a super middleweight.

Sucks for Peter though. He's not as good as people project him to be, but he is still improving as a fighter, and he really needs to get the ring time in order to keep improving. Either way, I suspect that a few years from now he won't necessarily be hot shit. He just seems to have some motivation issues to me, and usually those guys fade out by the time they pass their physical peak.

eze · 09-26-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mendoza

Peter got lucky vs a washed up and off the juice James Toney in the first fight, and beat him second time. This means he's the #1 ranked man in the WBC? Amazing stuff.

Im not even talking about that, Im talking about Orishman and his continous hate for fighters who are injured.

Orang-Utan Jim · 09-26-2007, 10:56 AM

Worthless thread....

Pure speculation bullshit without any evidences. Only kids discuss about crap like this....

Orishaman · 09-27-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eze

Im not even talking about that, Im talking about Orishman and his continous hate for fighters who are injured.

If you are tough...you are tought...interesting enough that Maskaev pulled out at the last minute since disc injurries don't happen from night to morning, they are developing type of injury, so all of a sudden is was ill...don;t buy it...like I never bought Vitali's story either...

09-28-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Orishaman

If you are tough...you are tought...interesting enough that Maskaev pulled out at the last minute since disc injurries don't happen from night to morning, they are developing type of injury, so all of a sudden is was ill...don;t buy it...like I never bought Vitali's story either...

Awhile back I would have totally disagreed with you, but I aint so sure now...this is the Williams sisters tactics in tennis.
Claim injury when you lose, or if you think you are gonna lose, withdraw due to injury

eze · 09-28-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Orishaman

If you are tough...you are tought...interesting enough that Maskaev pulled out at the last minute since disc injurries don't happen from night to morning, they are developing type of injury, so all of a sudden is was ill...don;t buy it...like I never bought Vitali's story either...

He had emergency back surgery.

Ivo · 09-28-2007, 02:11 AM

Maskaev and Vitali Klitschko are not the first heavyweights to postpone fights. As far as I remember Tyson is a champion in that area. He postponed total of 7 fights. Maskaev\'s manager points out the fact that Holyfield and Tyson postponed fights but were treated differently. Ruiz postponed his rematch with Holyfield so that I do not understand that selective thinking.

Orishaman is as close to the truth as it is the Earth to the the Sun.

41fever · 09-28-2007, 03:41 AM

could be a good argument, but in the Russian curcuit where they were raised, it was well documented that they filled their athletes with roids to give them size and muscularity to compete. Now their bodies are reaping the "benefit"

Ambition_Def · 09-28-2007, 04:19 AM

Remember all this talk about the herniated disc and such is coming from Rappaport, who I simply don't find trustworthy.

Duva said he'd seek to verify the injury. It's been a week so I don't know where that stands right now.

Now tell me this isn't inconsistent. Rappaport tells Dan Rafael that Maskaev had 1 herniated disc and 1 buldging disc. Kesch, who is Maskaev's other manager, tells another site that Maskaev had "several herniated discs and a couple buldging discs"

Now if inconsistencies are any sign of bullshit then we'll need hip waders to proceed further.

09-25-2007, 09:25 PM	#1
Orishaman I tell it like it is.... ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cupey Alto, PR & Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,920 vCash: 1000	Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out.... Vitali and Maskaev took the easy way out....Vitali having Emeritus status and Maskaev might go that route as I await his statement soon as he will retire Emeritus also......embarrasing for boxing.....
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09-25-2007, 09:38 PM	#2
Gerard Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 336 vCash: 1000	Re: Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out.... And they took a lot of time and progress out the HW division. If it wasn't for that bullshit comeback, negotiations for Mask-Clit we would've had Sam Peters defending the WBC title a few times now. Instead all we got is a lot of inactivity of the WBC belt.
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09-25-2007, 10:46 PM	#3
T.S. Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Oakland/San Francisco Posts: 4,132 vCash: 1000	Re: Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out.... Herniated discs in his back caused while training is the hard way out. Maskaev is finished. He'll never be considered an ATG but hey, becoming WBC HW Champ by bashing Hasim Rahman into the canvas ain't bad bragging rights, over a couple of stoli's in a bar.
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Orang-Utan Jim Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 176 vCash: 1000	Re: Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out.... Worthless thread.... Pure speculation bullshit without any evidences. Only kids discuss about crap like this....
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09-28-2007, 02:11 AM	#13
Ivo Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,620 vCash: 1151	Re: Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out.... Maskaev and Vitali Klitschko are not the first heavyweights to postpone fights. As far as I remember Tyson is a champion in that area. He postponed total of 7 fights. Maskaev\'s manager points out the fact that Holyfield and Tyson postponed fights but were treated differently. Ruiz postponed his rematch with Holyfield so that I do not understand that selective thinking. Orishaman is as close to the truth as it is the Earth to the the Sun.
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09-28-2007, 03:41 AM	#14
41fever Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: www.SFCboxingGYM.com Posts: 3,443 vCash: 75	Re: Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out.... could be a good argument, but in the Russian curcuit where they were raised, it was well documented that they filled their athletes with roids to give them size and muscularity to compete. Now their bodies are reaping the "benefit"
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09-28-2007, 04:19 AM	#15
Ambition_Def Fuck the people. East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,857 vCash: 1000	Re: Maskaev and Vitali-they took the easy way out.... Remember all this talk about the herniated disc and such is coming from Rappaport, who I simply don't find trustworthy. Duva said he'd seek to verify the injury. It's been a week so I don't know where that stands right now. Now tell me this isn't inconsistent. Rappaport tells Dan Rafael that Maskaev had 1 herniated disc and 1 buldging disc. Kesch, who is Maskaev's other manager, tells another site that Maskaev had "several herniated discs and a couple buldging discs" Now if inconsistencies are any sign of bullshit then we'll need hip waders to proceed further.
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