Did anyone in history punch harder than David Tua ?

[Tin_Ribs]

Tua can punch without a doubt, his left hook is a thing of murder. But he hasn't beaten that many durable men, ex-champions/future champions or not. Rahman, Maskaev, Moorer and Ruiz are/were all far from iron-jawed.

Ibeabuchi, Byrd and Lewis all took the best he had to offer, although his lack of skill aided Byrd and Lewis to a considerable extent.

I'd say Marciano, Lewis, Dempsey and Johansson all had one punch power somewhere around Tua's level. Maybe even somebody like Bob Satterfield.

[natonic]

Chris Byrd apparently.

[Bummy Davis]

I did not see his punch vs some ordinary fighters Jeff Wooden, Cisse Salif,Everton Davis,Rob Hawkins,Lester Jackson and we know he did nothing vs Byd, Lewis and looked slow as sh-t in the Rahman rematch...Yet he looked good vs Ruiz and Oleg and Rahman 1.....He has power but can be slow and put in check with power

[The Morlocks]

Originally Posted by Minotauro

I got a couple of quotes here:

Jack Johnson once said, "Jeffries had a solid wallop and Fitz[simmons] could knock your head off but that man Choynski could paralyze you even when he didn't catch you flush. In my opinion, he was the hardest hitter, pound for pound, of the last 50 years ... I think his left hook was much more effective than either Dempsey's or Louis's."

Jeffries said "he hit me so hard he broke my nose and wedged my lip between my teeth. He drove my head so far back I thought my neck stretched a foot."

In an interview with Nat Fleischer in 1950, "Jeffries told of one of the hardest punches he ever took. He said it came in the tenth round of his fight with Choynski and was a right smash to the mouth. It drove his upper lip between the two front teeth and so bothered was he by the injury that he had his seconds cut away a piece of the lip to release it."

DeWitt Van Court wrote "It was Joe Choynski who hit Jim Jeffries the hardest blow he ever received."

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

I can't seem to find the quote where Corbett says he hit harder then Fitz but I know I read it somewhere.

Jeffries had to be the toughest MFer in history. btw, that new book out on Jeffries is excellent.

[Sweet Pea]

I don't think in terms of pure concussive power that anyone hit harder, but there were definitely better punchers.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

I don't think in terms of pure concussive power that anyone hit harder, but there were definitely better punchers.

There were far better fighters, guys who threw better punches for the situation, but there was really no one I could say threw harder punches than Tua. I was ringside for a couple of his fights and the sound his punches made against a human body were unlike anything I had heard before.

[john garfield]

I think Curtis "Hatchetman" Sheppard could punch a ton.

[Big T]

Originally Posted by Unforgiven

I dont think Foreman hit harder than Tua.
Tua often knocked men unconscious, Foreman usually clubbed them groggy.

If you say that because Tua knocked men Unconscious, then you would have to put Razor Ruddox over Tua. Hell Tua never knocked guy out that where out for 5-10 mins. Ask Dokes and Bonecrusher on that.

[dezbeast]

I have determined a rather accurate way of gauging which fighters have the most power. It is far too complicated to post all the details so I will summarize a bit. There are different types of power, but the main thing I focus on is how fast the power puncher could spin the head of the modern typical champion with there best punch. The results varies to the extreme so that it's to the point where it becomes unpredictable. Also Lewis commented that Tua didn't have too much power.

[Big T]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkpaKxO5rjA[/ame]

[he grant]

Tua did not land at all against Byrd or Lewis. A punch has to land to hurt.

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by fleaman

Fitz wasn't that big a puncher, the solar plexus shot was a decent body shot though.

George Foreman is the first that comes to mind. Despite his chin, Tua would be a perfect opponent for Grorge. Short and aggressive, he wouldn't last three rounds.

so how qawi lasted 6 dood ?
does tua has less resilience than qawi ?
and an out of shape obese spastic one at that ?
it will last the distance. after all foreman's chin is just a little too high for tua. tua is no frazier. not even tyson. foreman can't stop him that early.

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by he grant

Tua did not land at all against Byrd or Lewis. A punch has to land to hurt.

in lewis' case it's understood. size makes fights.
with byrd it is a great talent.
but foreman is somewhat shorter than lewis (albeit still a little too tall for tua) and does not have half of byrd's talent. just imagine foreman against a 6'10" wlad or vitali. against the inflated wlad he only has the puncher's chance. against the inflated vitali he is doomed.

[frankenfrank]

Tony Galento

[Muchmoore]

Lyle is not a giant puncher. His power is probably slightly above average, Foreman's confidence was completely shot against Lyle and that was at least half of it. If Lyle's power was so good he would of hurt other fighters, compare his fight with Shavers to Quarrys. Quarry doesn't get credit for his power but it looked a heck of alot more impressive.