What now for Valuev? - Page 2

Armo_Ruski · 11-28-2009, 11:10 AM

wwe honestly. the guy is "too nice" to be a boxer. lol. he's 7ft tall and fights opponents with pity for them. if the dude had alil more edge and attitude especially in the ring. he'd be unstoppable.

NBT · 11-28-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Armo_Ruski

wwe honestly. the guy is "too nice" to be a boxer. lol. he's 7ft tall and fights opponents with pity for them. if the dude had alil more edge and attitude especially in the ring. he'd be unstoppable.

I think the way he fights is generally the most appropriate for him. Due to his immense size and weight he is just too slow. He can get away with that against a lot of people because there are many other HWs who aren't exactly speedsters but guys with reasonably fast hands and movement will always give him trouble no matter what he does. If he would suddenly start getting ultra aggressive against those guys they would just make him miss for a few rounds and he would be out of gas in no time.

VHB · 11-29-2009, 01:31 PM

Valuev should fight Jukka Järvinen.

I would bet all my money on Järvinen.

Why?

Because he has a better movement and jab.

liamo1982 · 11-29-2009, 01:57 PM

I think he should boil down to Cruiserweight LMAO

Mazallan · 11-30-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by liamo1982

I think he should boil down to Cruiserweight LMAO

He would be awesome it light middle.

liamo1982 · 11-30-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mazallan

He would be awesome it light middle.

Imagine him Vs Anthony Small Classic

KO KIDD · 11-30-2009, 02:54 PM

He should either retire or fight a handpicked confidence builder. The guy is over 35 7 foot 300 plus. He seems to have aged quickly and not only that but his knees do not allow him to be the fighter he used to be. Before he won the belt he let go with his right more he thru way more power shots. He became a jabber. I thought after his Chugaev fight he was all down hill. What he needs to do is fight a one dimensional slugger who has no foot work and no defense. A guy that would be tailor made for him. He could fight Mcall, Tua, Areolla, Oleg Maskaev. All are dangerous punchers but would not provide the achilles heel for Valuev. He can deal with plodding sluggers not fast movers like Haye or Holyfield or Donald.

fatcity · 12-03-2009, 11:21 AM

Did he ever make big money.All pics I have seen of him and his wife are in a very humble apartment.

11player · 12-03-2009, 03:41 PM

Valuev has the rematch clause, which he should use, at some point, it will get him another nice payday. I just happen to think he should not go for this fight straight away, a win against a famous gatekeeper, would help bring attention to him, promote his rematch with Haye or even open up new possibilities for big fights.

Golota in Moscow, Warsaw, Chicago or NYC will be good. Maskaev in Moscow or Germany, Botha in Moscow, Germany or South Africa, any of these would be fine for a good payday and as a confidence builder. Briggs could be too dangerous, Rahman is too shot.

Buddy87 · 01-07-2010, 08:54 PM

Don King has promotional rights, I'm going to say this; HE WILL HAVE ANOTHER TITLE FIGHT! Despite the fact that Arreola got his ass pounded, being owned by another top promotional company as well I wouldn't be suprised if he has one as well.

Someone mentioned Alexander Ustinov, he was from the K-1 I believe I seen him and if he tries to pull that stunt against Klitschko he's in some deep crap. The other tall guy that Ustinov has faced off against was against Julius Long which seemed pretty interesting for the first two rounds until he pulled a Sam Peters on him!

Well comparing Valuev to Long ( I would love to see that fight regardless of regards just to see two giants fight like when Long was in K-1 I believe it was when he faced off a guy that was 6'11 ) Unlike Valuev, when you watch Julius Long fight, you find yourself BEGGING for him to jab, when he did it against the top cuban contender in the HW division, it made you feel kinda proud of him to go all 8 rounds

Anyways, comparing Valuev to Long would be like comparing Klitschko to Dimitrenko now is that truly fair? maybe a confidence booster for Eddie Chambers to take on the next big lug but I doubt when he lands that body shot, all Wladamir's going to do is blink and wonder what bug bit him.

With a reputation of being a 2 time HW champion and with Don King on his side, I say another fight's going to take place whether it's with Haye, one of the Klitschko's or if some sort of goddam miracle occurs, it will be the almighty trilogy that the earth stood still for to give praise, Nikolai Valuev vs John Ruiz III! the battle of the hairy wilderbeasts! 1st fight was a great fight, in the 2nd fight, Valuev spanked his ass, but it's too early to see where Ruiz is in his career, I was unfortunate not to see his last fight on the undercard.

howarya · 01-14-2010, 06:04 PM

lose some weight

cubex · 01-14-2010, 07:13 PM

Grow a beard?

p.Townend · 01-20-2010, 05:22 PM

He will end up in a fight for a vacant title of some kind.Cant see a Haye return coming his way.

paddycfc · 02-09-2010, 09:42 PM

a think he will retire or should do he has gone through a long career without being seriosly hurt if he stays fighting a think he will end up getting stopped badly

11player · 02-10-2010, 04:31 PM

DKP and Sauerland are demanding US$ 4 mil. purse to make the fight with Vitali. Is this a legit request? considering Valuev has a contractual rematch set with Haye?

I wonder how much this fight is worth in Germany? 8-10 million? that means Valuev is asking for 40-50% of the purse.

Well, if they can't get the fight with Valuev donne, then maybe a good way to go is ask DKP for a fight against high ranked Ray Austin.

Fight a gatekeeper like Golota, Botha, Maskaev, Rahman, could be good as a confidence builder.

11-28-2009, 11:10 AM	#16
Armo_Ruski best of da best ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: "Little Odessa" NY, Glendale CALi Posts: 701 vCash: 1000	Re: What now for Valuev? wwe honestly. the guy is "too nice" to be a boxer. lol. he's 7ft tall and fights opponents with pity for them. if the dude had alil more edge and attitude especially in the ring. he'd be unstoppable.
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11-29-2009, 01:31 PM	#18
VHB Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 442 vCash: 1000	Re: What now for Valuev? Valuev should fight Jukka Järvinen. I would bet all my money on Järvinen. Why? Because he has a better movement and jab.
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11-29-2009, 01:57 PM	#19
liamo1982 newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 vCash: 300	Re: What now for Valuev? I think he should boil down to Cruiserweight LMAO
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11-30-2009, 02:54 PM	#22
KO KIDD Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,103 vCash: 835	Re: What now for Valuev? He should either retire or fight a handpicked confidence builder. The guy is over 35 7 foot 300 plus. He seems to have aged quickly and not only that but his knees do not allow him to be the fighter he used to be. Before he won the belt he let go with his right more he thru way more power shots. He became a jabber. I thought after his Chugaev fight he was all down hill. What he needs to do is fight a one dimensional slugger who has no foot work and no defense. A guy that would be tailor made for him. He could fight Mcall, Tua, Areolla, Oleg Maskaev. All are dangerous punchers but would not provide the achilles heel for Valuev. He can deal with plodding sluggers not fast movers like Haye or Holyfield or Donald.
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12-03-2009, 11:21 AM	#23
fatcity P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Battery Park Posts: 15,221 vCash: 1080	Re: What now for Valuev? Did he ever make big money.All pics I have seen of him and his wife are in a very humble apartment.
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12-03-2009, 03:41 PM	#24
11player Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,624 vCash: 1000	Re: What now for Valuev? Valuev has the rematch clause, which he should use, at some point, it will get him another nice payday. I just happen to think he should not go for this fight straight away, a win against a famous gatekeeper, would help bring attention to him, promote his rematch with Haye or even open up new possibilities for big fights. Golota in Moscow, Warsaw, Chicago or NYC will be good. Maskaev in Moscow or Germany, Botha in Moscow, Germany or South Africa, any of these would be fine for a good payday and as a confidence builder. Briggs could be too dangerous, Rahman is too shot.
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01-07-2010, 08:54 PM	#25
Buddy87 Journeyman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 69 vCash: 500	Re: What now for Valuev? Don King has promotional rights, I'm going to say this; HE WILL HAVE ANOTHER TITLE FIGHT! Despite the fact that Arreola got his ass pounded, being owned by another top promotional company as well I wouldn't be suprised if he has one as well. Someone mentioned Alexander Ustinov, he was from the K-1 I believe I seen him and if he tries to pull that stunt against Klitschko he's in some deep crap. The other tall guy that Ustinov has faced off against was against Julius Long which seemed pretty interesting for the first two rounds until he pulled a Sam Peters on him! Well comparing Valuev to Long ( I would love to see that fight regardless of regards just to see two giants fight like when Long was in K-1 I believe it was when he faced off a guy that was 6'11 ) Unlike Valuev, when you watch Julius Long fight, you find yourself BEGGING for him to jab, when he did it against the top cuban contender in the HW division, it made you feel kinda proud of him to go all 8 rounds Anyways, comparing Valuev to Long would be like comparing Klitschko to Dimitrenko now is that truly fair? maybe a confidence booster for Eddie Chambers to take on the next big lug but I doubt when he lands that body shot, all Wladamir's going to do is blink and wonder what bug bit him. With a reputation of being a 2 time HW champion and with Don King on his side, I say another fight's going to take place whether it's with Haye, one of the Klitschko's or if some sort of goddam miracle occurs, it will be the almighty trilogy that the earth stood still for to give praise, Nikolai Valuev vs John Ruiz III! the battle of the hairy wilderbeasts! 1st fight was a great fight, in the 2nd fight, Valuev spanked his ass, but it's too early to see where Ruiz is in his career, I was unfortunate not to see his last fight on the undercard.
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01-14-2010, 06:04 PM	#26
howarya Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 312 vCash: 1000	Re: What now for Valuev? lose some weight
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01-14-2010, 07:13 PM	#27
cubex RIP Thunder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 4,036 vCash: 2610	Re: What now for Valuev? Grow a beard?
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01-20-2010, 05:22 PM	#28
p.Townend Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dewsbury Posts: 8,385 vCash: 100	Re: What now for Valuev? He will end up in a fight for a vacant title of some kind.Cant see a Haye return coming his way.
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02-09-2010, 09:42 PM	#29
paddycfc Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: manchester Posts: 409 vCash: 75	Re: What now for Valuev? a think he will retire or should do he has gone through a long career without being seriosly hurt if he stays fighting a think he will end up getting stopped badly
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02-10-2010, 04:31 PM	#30
11player Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,624 vCash: 1000	Re: What now for Valuev? DKP and Sauerland are demanding US$ 4 mil. purse to make the fight with Vitali. Is this a legit request? considering Valuev has a contractual rematch set with Haye? I wonder how much this fight is worth in Germany? 8-10 million? that means Valuev is asking for 40-50% of the purse. Well, if they can't get the fight with Valuev donne, then maybe a good way to go is ask DKP for a fight against high ranked Ray Austin. Fight a gatekeeper like Golota, Botha, Maskaev, Rahman, could be good as a confidence builder.
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