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Old 11-26-2009, 10:51 AM   #46
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:03 AM   #47
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Norris has become like a spoof on ESB. If in doubt, Terry Norris.
What's so wrong with me naming Norris as one of the greatest combination punchers of all time?

The very first response to this thread was from Xplosive, who seems to be very respected at ESB and he named Norris as one of the greatest combination punchers also. It's sad that people have such a dislike for Norris just because he whooped up on Leonard which was a fight Leonard was the betting favorite going in.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:04 AM   #48
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From what I've seen of both, Chavez was more fluid.
More fluid? Really?? That's one of the key reasons why I think Duran was better. I think he was definitely more fluid than Chavez. Chavez was more measured while Duran was smoother, more intuitive, more powerful. In a way, I'd say Chavez was similar to Duran in throwing combinations, but less talented. Duran's knack of slipping and ducking while coming in with combinations was more effective than Chavez's (also brilliant) blocking and parrying while unloading. Both were ATGs in this respect though.
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What's so wrong with me naming Norris as one of the greatest combination punchers of all time?

The very first response to this thread was from Xplosive, who seems to be very respected at ESB and he named Norris as one of the greatest combination punchers also. It's sad that people have such a dislike for Norris just because he whooped up on Leonard which was a fight Leonard was the betting favorite going in.
It's such a shame that some people actually put any stock whatsoever in Norris being an old, finished Ray Leonard.
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More fluid? Really?? That's one of the key reasons why I think Duran was better. I think he was definitely more fluid than Chavez. Chavez was more measured while Duran was smoother, more intuitive, more powerful. In a way, I'd say Chavez was similar to Duran in throwing combinations, but less talented. Duran's knack of slipping and ducking while coming in with combinations was more effective than Chavez's (also brilliant) blocking and parrying while unloading. Both were ATGs in this respect though.
I never saw Duran throw a 4-5 punch combination in a fluid motion like Chavez did nearly every time out. Duran was a great combination puncher, and perhaps I haven't seen the best of him, but Chavez is the best combination puncher I've personally seen on film. I actually think in this department, combination punching, a lot of the more modern fighters are extremely good at it. Marco Antonio Barrera was a superb combination puncher, as was Orlando Canizales, Juan Manuel Marquez, and Ricardo Lopez. They are every bit as beautiful to watch as Duran when watching them put punches together. I'll have to watch more Duran, I have his fight with Palamino coming in the post. I've seen highlights.
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What's so wrong with me naming Norris as one of the greatest combination punchers of all time?

The very first response to this thread was from Xplosive, who seems to be very respected at ESB and he named Norris as one of the greatest combination punchers also. It's sad that people have such a dislike for Norris just because he whooped up on Leonard which was a fight Leonard was the betting favorite going in.
News just in!!!!!!!!!!! Norris: Was shit.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:31 AM   #54
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Ray Leonard & Terry Norris, both had tremendous balance and fluidity and punched with both hands at devastating speed.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:32 AM   #55
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More fluid? Really?? That's one of the key reasons why I think Duran was better. I think he was definitely more fluid than Chavez. Chavez was more measured while Duran was smoother, more intuitive, more powerful. In a way, I'd say Chavez was similar to Duran in throwing combinations, but less talented. Duran's knack of slipping and ducking while coming in with combinations was more effective than Chavez's (also brilliant) blocking and parrying while unloading. Both were ATGs in this respect though.
Agreed. Chavez was an excellent combination puncher no doubt, but I've never seen any evidence to suggest that he was better than Duran in this or any other regard, including fluidity of punching. He was perhaps more deliberate, but nothing else. Which isn't a knock on him.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:34 AM   #56
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I never saw Duran throw a 4-5 punch combination in a fluid motion like Chavez did nearly every time out. Duran was a great combination puncher, and perhaps I haven't seen the best of him, but Chavez is the best combination puncher I've personally seen on film. I actually think in this department, combination punching, a lot of the more modern fighters are extremely good at it. Marco Antonio Barrera was a superb combination puncher, as was Orlando Canizales, Juan Manuel Marquez, and Ricardo Lopez. They are every bit as beautiful to watch as Duran when watching them put punches together. I'll have to watch more Duran, I have his fight with Palamino coming in the post. I've seen highlights.
70s Duran threw beautiful combinations for fun, while avoiding being touched himself a lot of the time.

I think you are maybe overrating Marquez by including him in that little group, I don't think he throws combos as well as the other three (I think his technique for throwing a single shot is gorgeous though). He is a good combination-puncher of course, but I wouldn't say his ability was that outstanding that it demands to be elevated above a hundred others. I'll agree with you on Barrera though, and not just coz you want me to! MAB did throw a mean combination, really lovely technique.
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Ray Leonard & Terry Norris, both had tremendous balance and fluidity and punched with both hands at devastating speed.
Both except Norris.
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1) JOE LOUIS> Best Power Combination Puncher ever
2) SSR > best combination puncher
3) Wille Pep...nice variety
4) Ali > speed combo
5) Archie Moore...good stuff
6) Billy Conn...nice combo's
7) Duran...left hook right hand..after jab
Benny Leonard
9) Mike Tyson
10) Lennox Lewis
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Huh there is only two fighters there bro.
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Huh there is only two fighters there bro.
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