Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154

KOTF · 11-26-2009, 03:15 AM

Well?

Big T · 11-26-2009, 03:33 AM

Shane would KO JJ. I loved to watch Jackson fight back in the day, but the fact is Shane has a very good chin and much pop in his punches. Not too say that if Jackson hits the Money shot that he couldn't KO Shane..but the facts are Shane has beaten much better fighters then Jackson..Shane has taken big shots over his career and never been stopped..And Shane speed and power would be too much for Jackson to overcome. Now if you want a poll to talk about. Edison M vs Jackson. Power vs Power.

Thread Stealer · 11-26-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Big T

Shane would KO JJ. I loved to watch Jackson fight back in the day, but the fact is Shane has a very good chin and much pop in his punches. Not too say that if Jackson hits the Money shot that he couldn't KO Shane..but the facts are Shane has beaten much better fighters then Jackson..Shane has taken big shots over his career and never been stopped..And Shane speed and power would be too much for Jackson to overcome. Now if you want a poll to talk about. Edison M vs Jackson. Power vs Power.

As has been said before by the poster Xplosive, "Jackson would knock Miranda back to his homeless childhood".

Jackson is simply a higher level of fighter than Miranda.

Mosley's a higher level than Jackson, but wasn't really much special at 154. Controversial win over DLH, two losses to Winky, two wins over a faded Vargas (who hit him at will with straight rights in their first fight), struggle with Mayorga. Really the only time he's looked good at 154 was the rematch with Nando.

Mosley's aggressive, speedy-slugger style will get him in trouble here. Great chins sometimes get cracked. There's a pretty good chance this is the case here.

Big T · 11-26-2009, 04:47 AM

Great Chins do get cracked..but I will take a Great Chin over a not so great chin. Plus the guys you say Mosley struggle with..Winky..very good chin...ODH Great Chin...Mayorga..above avage chin. All had beter chins then Jackson. Plus Jackson was out boxed in many of his fights. I still feel that the speed, power, chin and skill lvl of Shane would put him over the top of Jackson.

Big T · 11-26-2009, 04:54 AM

Mind you I have seen many of many Jacksons fights ((Not on UTube)) but on TV Live. He had that kind of power that with 1 shot ends it. This woudn't be a easy one, but Jackson could also be out boxed in fights. As long as Jackson is out for the next round he is a big time danger to knock you out. But again will say to much skill and very good chin of Shane would carry the day. And Please don't say that Terry Norrise had great skills also. Terry wasn't as good as Shane.

laxpdx · 11-26-2009, 06:15 AM

If Herol Graham wants to bend Mosley's ear about not taking this fight, Shane better lend it.

Flea Man · 11-26-2009, 07:26 AM

Shane's worst weight vs Jacksons best.

Regardless of Shanes occasional flourishes of boxing beauty, the guy is an athletic slugger, let's be honest. He likes to trade, the footwork he employs (even at 135) is to get back in position to throw his bombs.

Now, Mosley has a fantastic chin. No doubt. But he has been hurt badly before, so it cannot be denied he is infallible in this respect.

Jackson lacks Forrests ranginess/big height advanatge. But he hits much harder.

Either Shane gets the better of an early exchange and stuns Jackson, stopping him with his back on the ropes. Or he gets caught with a peach and put down. Stunned badly, he's unable to grab hold of Jacksons legs and is stunned against a much better finisher than Forrest (R.I.P)

I say Jackson, K.O.3. Being a massive fan of Shanes, they're aren't many I'd pick to do that to him. I just don't feel he was at his best at 154. He's no McCallum either.

McGrain · 11-26-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thread Stealer

As has been said before by the poster Xplosive, "Jackson would knock Miranda back to his homeless childhood".

Jackson is simply a higher level of fighter than Miranda.

Mosley's a higher level than Jackson, but wasn't really much special at 154. Controversial win over DLH, two losses to Winky, two wins over a faded Vargas (who hit him at will with straight rights in their first fight), struggle with Mayorga. Really the only time he's looked good at 154 was the rematch with Nando.

Mosley's aggressive, speedy-slugger style will get him in trouble here. Great chins sometimes get cracked. There's a pretty good chance this is the case here.

Very good post, I agree wholeheartedly. Jackson by KO would be my pick.

Beeston Brawler · 11-26-2009, 12:40 PM

Jackson has a better chin than he is given credit for

Mantequilla · 11-26-2009, 12:42 PM

Mosley was a decent at best 154lber.He'd be put into survival mode here, even if he doesn't get knocked out.

PowerPuncher · 11-26-2009, 12:44 PM

Hmm tough pick Great punch versus great chin on a head on clash. I actually think Jackson would be the man to crack Mosley's chin as this really isnt his weight class and I think JJ was avoided in his prime, which gets him pretty underrated.

Tin_Ribs · 11-26-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fleaman

Shane's worst weight vs Jacksons best.

Regardless of Shanes occasional flourishes of boxing beauty, the guy is an athletic slugger, let's be honest. He likes to trade, the footwork he employs (even at 135) is to get back in position to throw his bombs.

Now, Mosley has a fantastic chin. No doubt. But he has been hurt badly before, so it cannot be denied he is infallible in this respect.

Jackson lacks Forrests ranginess/big height advanatge. But he hits much harder.

Either Shane gets the better of an early exchange and stuns Jackson, stopping him with his back on the ropes. Or he gets caught with a peach and put down. Stunned badly, he's unable to grab hold of Jacksons legs and is stunned against a much better finisher than Forrest (R.I.P)

I say Jackson, K.O.3. Being a massive fan of Shanes, they're aren't many I'd pick to do that to him. I just don't feel he was at his best at 154. He's no McCallum either.

Oui.

frankenfrank · 11-26-2009, 04:40 PM

good question. really don't know the answer.

WhataRock · 11-26-2009, 07:12 PM

Jackson is winning...Ill go for a points verdict.

As flea put it Shane just wasnt that good at 154. Even at his best he wasnt the puncher that a lot of people make out. He was very good in this regard still but other attributes of his were just as important in earning his stoppages.

Sugar will be in two minds as soon as he tastes Julian's power..Which given Shane's so-so defense and Jackson's fast starts, it wont be long before he gets a taste.

Julian takes a fairly lopsided decision IMO.

View Poll Results: Who gets it?
Mosley by KO/TKO	2	14.29%
Mosley by decision	2	14.29%
Draw	0	0%
Jackson by KO/TKO	10	71.43%
Jackson by decision	0	0%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

11-26-2009, 03:15 AM	#1
KOTF Bingooo East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Playa Vista, Los Angeles Posts: 7,678 vCash: 60874	Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Well?
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11-26-2009, 03:33 AM	#2
Big T Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,027 vCash: 1000	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Shane would KO JJ. I loved to watch Jackson fight back in the day, but the fact is Shane has a very good chin and much pop in his punches. Not too say that if Jackson hits the Money shot that he couldn't KO Shane..but the facts are Shane has beaten much better fighters then Jackson..Shane has taken big shots over his career and never been stopped..And Shane speed and power would be too much for Jackson to overcome. Now if you want a poll to talk about. Edison M vs Jackson. Power vs Power.
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11-26-2009, 04:47 AM	#4
Big T Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,027 vCash: 1000	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Great Chins do get cracked..but I will take a Great Chin over a not so great chin. Plus the guys you say Mosley struggle with..Winky..very good chin...ODH Great Chin...Mayorga..above avage chin. All had beter chins then Jackson. Plus Jackson was out boxed in many of his fights. I still feel that the speed, power, chin and skill lvl of Shane would put him over the top of Jackson.
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11-26-2009, 04:54 AM	#5
Big T Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,027 vCash: 1000	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Mind you I have seen many of many Jacksons fights ((Not on UTube)) but on TV Live. He had that kind of power that with 1 shot ends it. This woudn't be a easy one, but Jackson could also be out boxed in fights. As long as Jackson is out for the next round he is a big time danger to knock you out. But again will say to much skill and very good chin of Shane would carry the day. And Please don't say that Terry Norrise had great skills also. Terry wasn't as good as Shane.
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11-26-2009, 06:15 AM	#6
laxpdx Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,386 vCash: 1000	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 If Herol Graham wants to bend Mosley's ear about not taking this fight, Shane better lend it.
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11-26-2009, 07:26 AM	#7
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,051 vCash: 75	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Shane's worst weight vs Jacksons best. Regardless of Shanes occasional flourishes of boxing beauty, the guy is an athletic slugger, let's be honest. He likes to trade, the footwork he employs (even at 135) is to get back in position to throw his bombs. Now, Mosley has a fantastic chin. No doubt. But he has been hurt badly before, so it cannot be denied he is infallible in this respect. Jackson lacks Forrests ranginess/big height advanatge. But he hits much harder. Either Shane gets the better of an early exchange and stuns Jackson, stopping him with his back on the ropes. Or he gets caught with a peach and put down. Stunned badly, he's unable to grab hold of Jacksons legs and is stunned against a much better finisher than Forrest (R.I.P) I say Jackson, K.O.3. Being a massive fan of Shanes, they're aren't many I'd pick to do that to him. I just don't feel he was at his best at 154. He's no McCallum either.
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11-26-2009, 12:40 PM	#9
Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: trying to increase my overdraft.... Posts: 35,244 vCash: 75	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Jackson has a better chin than he is given credit for
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11-26-2009, 12:42 PM	#10
Mantequilla Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,495 vCash: 1000	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Mosley was a decent at best 154lber.He'd be put into survival mode here, even if he doesn't get knocked out.
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11-26-2009, 12:44 PM	#11
PowerPuncher ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 30,729 vCash: 1000	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Hmm tough pick Great punch versus great chin on a head on clash. I actually think Jackson would be the man to crack Mosley's chin as this really isnt his weight class and I think JJ was avoided in his prime, which gets him pretty underrated.
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11-26-2009, 04:40 PM	#13
frankenfrank Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,961 vCash: 4470	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 good question. really don't know the answer.
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11-26-2009, 07:12 PM	#14
WhataRock Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 13,392 vCash: 166	Re: Shane Mosley vs. Julian Jackson at 154 Jackson is winning...Ill go for a points verdict. As flea put it Shane just wasnt that good at 154. Even at his best he wasnt the puncher that a lot of people make out. He was very good in this regard still but other attributes of his were just as important in earning his stoppages. Sugar will be in two minds as soon as he tastes Julian's power..Which given Shane's so-so defense and Jackson's fast starts, it wont be long before he gets a taste. Julian takes a fairly lopsided decision IMO. Last edited by WhataRock; 11-29-2009 at 01:56 AM.
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