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Old 09-26-2007, 06:11 PM   #31
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I don't see Sam attacking Waldo the same way he did Toney. Waldo is a big target and so Sam doesn't have to pick his punches so much. He is also very open defensively if you can close the gap between him and you. I do however think Sam would go to the body more in a rematch.

Waldo on the other hand is going to do exactly what he did the first time, which is try to negate all offense inside. He won't let Sam get off because he knows it can end on one bomb.



No mistake about it this is the top contest at heavyweight today. I think when these two first met up the ESPN board was absolutely hopping, and the gate sales for Waldo-Sam were pretty good as well.

With both holding a title and a rematch of a close first fight, this is a fight that sells itself.

A point we can agree on is the NEED for a REMATCH.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:13 PM   #32
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Waldo finishing Sam in the 12th is another great ESB fallacy. Sam had recovered in all of 5 seconds. He wobbled but got his bearings long before Waldo even got another jab off.

I think you need to consider who hit the deck 3 times in the first place. Waldo would be lucky to make 12 rounds again, let alone be enabled to clinch 96 tmes over 12 rounds.
In all honesty...I think this is as close to the truth as your gonna get.

Peter CAN take a shot. Noone will dispute that here. Wlad cannot. He got dropped a few times in the first one...not the other way around.

If this fight goes deep (which by all acounts it would), Peter stands to have a great chance of stopping him.

THAT SAID. Wlad could, would and if it happens WILL, box circles around him, so the only way I see Peter winning is by KO....which, in any Wlad fight, is always a possibility.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:13 PM   #33
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He wouldn't need to go 12. The fight would only go about 7 or 8 with Peter stopping Wlad. Trust me... it's coming soon.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:14 PM   #34
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I can't see Peter lasting past the 9th round I think Wlad will hurt him early, wear him down with heavy jabs a straight rights, then start with the leading left hooks when he has Peter's eyes well swollen, probably around rd. 7, then its just a matter of time before he drops him and I have a felling when Peter goes down he will have trouble picking himself up. Peter is a few classes below Wlad in skill and I can't even see him catching Klitschko with his wild rabbit punches in this one.

Wlad KO9

Moreover, Wlad is not the only dude who would stop Peter.

Nice guy, but quite overrated.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:24 PM   #35
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Lastly, Bitchko only fights once/twice a year. I highly doubt he will fight Peter because Peter is one of the guys who will KO Bitchko and Manny can't have that!!
Both Peter and Klitschko have fought FOUR times since they last met.

Peter has improved slightly, and Wlad has improved more.

Therefore, the net difference between the two of them has increased.

Peter might last 12 against Wlad a second time, but the evidence doesn't point to it.

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Old 09-26-2007, 06:25 PM   #36
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Also since when was the first match close ? Sam won 2 rounds.
I think he might have won three, not certain though.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:35 PM   #37
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I think he might have won three, not certain though.
I should rewatch it... weren't the 2 behind the head kd's in the same round ?
Ah well does not matter, 3 rounds still does not make a close match. And you could score those 9-9 rounds as Sam didnt do anything besides that.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:40 PM   #38
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I should rewatch it... weren't the 2 behind the head kd's in the same round ?
Ah well does not matter, 3 rounds still does not make a close match. And you could score those 9-9 rounds as Sam didnt do anything besides that.
You're right. There were two KD's in the fifth and one in the tenth.

Wlad won every other round.

My apologies.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:07 PM   #39
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First off, there was a video on youtube pointing out every Bitchko Clinch/hold and it came out to be 91. So any number between 90-100 is probably spot on.

Second, Peter will bring the fight to Wlad and Manny's strategy is and will always be "When he comes inside, clinch." If Wlad fought Peter inside he would get destoryed.

Third, Peter is much improved since that fight more than Wlad. Wlad already had his "A" game when he fought Peter and all Peter did was improve, so I would lean towards Peter by Early KO. Plus Peter almost had the fight won in the 5th having sent Bitchko reeling twice and on his way to a third resulting in a TKO for Peter since the 3 knockdown rule was in effect.

Fourth, Toney has one of the best defenses regardless of weight. Plus Peter knocked Toney down for the first time in like what, 10 years? Peter managed to win both, even though I thought Toney won the first match.

Lastly, Bitchko only fights once/twice a year. I highly doubt he will fight Peter because Peter is one of the guys who will KO Bitchko and Manny can't have that!!
Wladimir already beat that fatass, let's wait til Peter has some belt so Wlad can take it off his hands.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:12 PM   #40
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lol - i love how people love to reach but pretend they aren't...

you thought Vlad brought his 'A' game against Peter in that first bout? lol, sorry -- but Vlad has performed exponentionally better in his recent title defenses than he did in that Peter fight --- he was not throwing his straight right w/ power against Peter --- nor did he have his newly adaptive left hook working (the punch in which he knocked out ray austin with)

both peter and vlad have improved from that fight --- and wlad is a fool to fight peter inside - just as peter is a fool to allow wlad to have distance - where peter would get crushed.

at least be honest w/ your criticism.
Spot on. Wlad wobbled Peter with that same left hook that he crushed Austin with but I'm sure Wlad realized, that going for the KO so late in the fight when you're so far ahead on the cards, is hardly a smart move.

That's the reason these haters want Wlad to fight on the inside & not use the clinch, it's because they want to see him lose at all costs. When WK wins they all look like fools who don't know what the **** they're talking about
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:18 PM   #41
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He wouldn't need to go 12. The fight would only go about 7 or 8 with Peter stopping Wlad. Trust me... it's coming soon.
Oh please, you've obviously bought into the "Peter hype machine" that Duva, King & Gotchek or whatever his name is, are selling.

How many rounds did it take for Peter to KO Taurus Sykes ?

How about Yankme Diaz?
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:22 PM   #42
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Oh please, you've obviously bought into the "Peter hype machine" that Duva, King & Gotchek or whatever his name is, are selling.

How many rounds did it take for Peter to KO Taurus Sykes ?

How about Yankme Diaz?


No... I'm buying into the "Wlad has NO chin and hasn't fought a guy with a fuccin pulse in 2 years" machine. If Sam could knock Wlad down with 3 glancing blows, what'll happen when he actually lands a REAL power shot?

I'll tell you what'll happen... lights out Wlad. Mark my words... it is coming.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:42 PM   #43
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No... I'm buying into the "Wlad has NO chin and hasn't fought a guy with a fuccin pulse in 2 years" machine. If Sam could knock Wlad down with 3 glancing blows, what'll happen when he actually lands a REAL power shot?

I'll tell you what'll happen... lights out Wlad. Mark my words... it is coming.
Exactly...
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:55 PM   #44
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Yeah losers, keep patting each other on the back like that. It'll come in handy to start a support group early for "Posters who were wrong AGAIN about Wlad"

At least you'll have each other
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:57 PM   #45
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I'll tell you what'll happen... lights out Wlad. Mark my words... it is coming.
Could never happen, WALDO has an iron jaw didn't you know? Also his defeats have all been erased from his record, and all previous knockdowns have been explained, his chin has never been a factor, apparently.
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