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Old 09-26-2007, 08:57 PM   #16
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Whatever. Provided we actually get a WBC title fight for a change, I'm happy.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:07 PM   #17
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McCall was more deserving.

He won an eliminator!
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:55 PM   #18
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McCline is a tougher fight than Golota or McCall for Peter.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:19 AM   #19
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It's fun how people can post all kinds of claims and opinions without telling us how they arrive at their conclusions. It's not really an argument, it's more like child's play. I wanna try, I wanna try, please let me try:

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McCline is a tougher fight than Golota or McCall for Peter.
No! Not if his life depended on it.


Wasn't that annoying? Next time, tell us why you think that McCline is supposedly tougher than either McCall or Golota, so we can laugh a little harder.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:33 AM   #20
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Wasn't that annoying? Next time, tell us why you think that McCline is supposedly tougher than either McCall or Golota, so we can laugh a little harder.
Golota is shot. McCall is old and not as skilled as McCline at this point, and doesn't have near the track record.

McCline has more left at this stage then either of these two guys, and his size makes him a better challenger for Peter and a more interesting fight.

He beat Briggs and Whitaker, knocked down Byrd and Brock more recently, although losing both decisions, and was looking good against Valuev.

The only semi-quality fighter McCall has beaten in say...the last decade, is punching bag Sinan Sam.

Golota is 1-2-1 in the last 4 years (no, he didn't beat Byrd), with his only win against Jeremy Bates.

Give me a break, at this point McCline is clearly the better opponent of those three.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:42 AM   #21
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Golota is shot. McCall is old and not as skilled as McCline at this point, and doesn't have near the track record.

McCline has more left at this stage then either of these two guys, and his size makes him a better challenger for Peter and a more interesting fight.

He beat Briggs and Whitaker, knocked down Byrd and Brock more recently, although losing both decisions, and was looking good against Valuev.

The only semi-quality fighter McCall has beaten in say...the last decade, is punching bag Sinan Sam.

Golota is 1-2-1 in the last 4 years (no, he didn't beat Byrd), with his only win against Jeremy Bates.

Give me a break, at this point McCline is clearly the better opponent of those three.
He sure as hell is not a better quality fighter than either McCall or Golota, because his biggest successes have been smaller and his biggest failures greater and more frequent, than either of those fighters (3 loses to absolute bums and clubfighters, something that Golota or McCall have never done). For now, to say that Golota is shot is really a premature conclusion because he had terrific performances against Byrd and Ruiz and was bombed against Brewster, which was not unusual for him and does not really indicate that his overall skills have deteriorated to the point of being shot. He looked decent against Bates and did what he was supposed to do - get rid of a bum in 2 rounds, which is something that McCline cannot reliably do. We will know more about Golota when he faces McBride. McCline's record is inferior to Golota's by any comparison you choose to make. McCline's supporters are ,like their fighter, full of hot air.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:44 AM   #22
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He sure as hell is not a better quality fighter than either McCall or Golota, because his biggest successes have been smaller (a win against a shellshocked M. Grant) and his biggest failures greater and more frequent, than either of those fighters (3 loses to absolute bums and clubfighters, something that Golota or McCall have never done). McCline's record is inferior to Golota's by any comparison you choose to make. McCline's supporters are ,like their fighter, full of hot air.
We aren't talking about resume's. Golota, at his best, was obviously more talented, but right now, McCline still has something left. Whereas Golota is probably close to, if not already a shot fighter.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:59 AM   #23
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We aren't talking about resume's. Golota, at his best, was obviously more talented, but right now, McCline still has something left. Whereas Golota is probably close to, if not already a shot fighter.
Indeed, it's not 1996 anymore.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:59 AM   #24
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We aren't talking about resume's. Golota, at his best, was obviously more talented, but right now, McCline still has something left. Whereas Golota is probably close to, if not already a shot fighter.
I don't know whether Golota is a shot fighter. You're probably basing that opinion on two things: the quick loss against Brewster and his recent inactivity. Because the loss against Brewster was the type of loss that Golota could have picked up in his prime (eg., vs. Lewis), the loss does not really demonstrate that Golota is, overall, a shot fighter. It only showed us what we knew all along - Golota is vulnerable to early attacks made by heavy punchers. His inactivity is not really a concern because Golota has always been a gym rat and comes to fight in terrific shape. I would say hold your judgment of whether he is shot (and therefore inferior to McCline at this time) after his bout with McBride.

With a fighter like Golota, where we know most of his shortcomings are psychological, don't be surpised if we see him better than ever and enter in his actual prime, IF he manages to control his mental issues. I believe we saw glimpses of that, not two years ago against Byrd and Ruiz.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:09 AM   #25
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Mccall is the most qualified fighter for Peter in the sense that he has never been down in his 22 year career giving him one of best chins of all time, if Peter could take Mccall out that would be a good indication to most his power is for real and is not overrated. As far as competition goes Mccall has more notable wins than Golota and Mccline combined, Mccall would easily be the hardest fight seeing that Golota melts when hit by a big puncher over last the 10 years and Mccline who has limited skills who has stamina problems in most fights.

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Old 09-28-2007, 12:40 AM   #26
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the fact is mcline will lose and he will lose in boring fashion. golota would lose but atleast it would be in crazy fashion and theres always the tiny tiny chance that he pulls something nice, and an even bigger chance that he would do nicely and then pull something crazy. atleast it would be interesting. mccall atleast has an iron chin and it would be an interesting fight and hes been winning his fights.
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