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View Poll Results: Will David Haye Be Considered The Second Greatest Cruiserweight Of All Time?
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:50 PM   #16
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This guy freaks me out mate, he thinks Fraudley will be the Undisputed champion in 2008, I think he's a sociopath.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:52 PM   #17
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He scares the shit out of me as well!
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:54 PM   #18
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Don't laugh!

He scares the shit out of me as well!
On top of it, he's a conspiracy theorist who talks about earth becoming apart of a greater galactic community, he's certainly 'interesting', but not in the way that I am personally interested.

He's a little alarming.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:09 PM   #19
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CRUISERWEIGHTS:

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Carlos de Leon
3. Juan Carlos Gomez
4. Johnny Nelson
5. Jean Marc Mormeck
6. Vasiliy Jirov
7. O’Neil Bell
8. James Toney
9. Orlin Norris
10. Dwight Muhammad Qawi


By beating an old Arthur Williams, Glen Kelly, Alexander Gurov, Fragomeni and Mormeck I don't know if Haye will make it to the Top10.

BTW, Holyfield beat Qawi twice, Henry Tillman, Ricky Parkey, Ossie Ocassio and Oscar de Leon to be the GOAT in that weight class.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:13 PM   #20
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CRUISERWEIGHTS:

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Carlos de Leon
3. Juan Carlos Gomez
4. Johnny Nelson
5. Jean Marc Mormeck
6. Vasiliy Jirov
7. O’Neil Bell
8. James Toney
9. Orlin Norris
10. Dwight Muhammad Qawi


By beating an old Arthur Williams, Glen Kelly, Alexander Gurov, Fragomeni and Mormeck I don't know if Haye will make it to the Top10.
Thats a good list.I don't think he can top that
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:21 PM   #21
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This is a big if, that he will even beat Mormeck. I'm pulling for Mormeck.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:30 PM   #22
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Considering Bell already KOed Mormeck and arguably won the second bout, it's hysterical that you feel Haye would get a #2 rating, right behind Commander Evander.
Arguably? If you like arguing for the sake of arguing, because you'd be wrong. Bell only came close to winning that fight because Mormeck took the last 4 rounds off.



On the main topic:

Haye COULD be the #2 Cruiserweight of all-time at some point, but it's way too early to make any kind of prediction like that at all. Besides we have to see if he stays at Cruiser after the Mormeck fight, which is no pushover fight at all anyhow.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:32 PM   #23
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In terms of achievements, no, in terms of Head to Head, he might be. Definitely top 5. IF he beats Mormeck I can only see Holyfield, de Leon, Gomez and maybe Qawi beating him prime for prime, He's probably the hardest hitting cruiserweight ever I'll give him that.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:37 PM   #24
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CRUISERWEIGHTS:

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Carlos de Leon
3. Juan Carlos Gomez
4. Johnny Nelson
5. Jean Marc Mormeck
6. Vasiliy Jirov
7. O’Neil Bell
8. James Toney
9. Orlin Norris
10. Dwight Muhammad Qawi


By beating an old Arthur Williams, Glen Kelly, Alexander Gurov, Fragomeni and Mormeck I don't know if Haye will make it to the Top10.


BTW, Holyfield beat Qawi twice, Henry Tillman, Ricky Parkey, Ossie Ocassio and Oscar de Leon to be the GOAT in that weight class.
You've got Toney in the top 10 and his biggest win was against your #6 cruiser, Jirov. If Haye were to beat your #5, Mormeck, convincingly, then coupled with his wins over other decent cruisers he's surely got to be in there somewhere, no?
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:38 PM   #25
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No, SHW, he´s even right now the best CW ever!
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:42 PM   #26
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You've got Toney in the top 10 and his biggest win was against your #6 cruiser, Jirov. If Haye were to beat your #5, Mormeck, convincingly, then coupled with his wins over other decent cruisers he's surely got to be in there somewhere, no?
Maybe Haye belongs in the Top10, but the toe-to-toe basis would be a big part in that rating.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:46 PM   #27
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Maybe Haye belongs in the Top10, but the toe-to-toe basis would be a big part in that rating.
Fair enough, but I think Haye's size and power means he compares quite favourably in that respect to all the other top cruisers. I may be slightly biased however.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:48 PM   #28
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Someone ban this ****ing peon

He supports Audley Harrison - ffs, nuff said.
Exactly.
Boring, repetetive muppet who I think actually hates English fighters and just wants them to be disrespected by starting bullshit like this.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:50 PM   #29
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:53 PM   #30
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Let's see Haye perform at the top level, he's only just gotten there

I think Ding would break him, for instance - yet you don't see anyone ranking Ding in the top 10
Absolutely, I wouldn't try to suggest he's top 10 until after the Mormeck fight at least.

Regarding a fight with Ding however, I think it's a fairly easy night for Haye provided he fights sensibly. He's got all the physical advantages and given that Nwodo was outboxing Ding, I'm quite confident Haye can do the same but in a more convincing manner. He's got a huge reach and decent fundamentals enabling him to win the fight at a distance.
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