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Old 12-02-2009, 04:29 PM   #1
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HOW DID THIS GUY SCHOOL ARCHIE MOORE...

...AND ACHIEVE NEVER BEING DISCUSSED AT ALL!!!!???
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:40 PM   #2
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Pre-prime Archie Moore, he didn't really start to get the big wins until about '45 when he beat Marshall, Williams, Cocoa Kid etc.
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:45 PM   #3
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Pre-prime Archie Moore, he didn't really start to get the big wins until about '45 when he beat Marshall, Williams, Cocoa Kid etc.
Not forgetting Overlin, Conn and Brouillard. Yarosz was great.
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:46 PM   #4
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Well keep in mind Teddy was over the hill with a wrecked bone on bone knee!
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:51 PM   #5
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He was one of the better guys of the era, a world class operator, that's how he did it. Not sure how the hell the not getting discussed part happened though.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:55 PM   #6
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Lots of guys schooled Archie. Unfortunately for his future opponents, he graduated summa cum laude from his classes and refused to grow up and get old when he should have. He never got too old to learn, and went on a 20 fight unbeaten streak which lasted through the rest of the 1950s after D'Amato and Patterson had taught him yet another lesson.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:56 PM   #7
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Lack of film.
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:40 PM   #8
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He certainly has some impressive names on his ledger, was a world titlist for 4 years beating the champion Dundee 3 times to do so, beating and going to SDs against a pre-prime Conn, Moore was very much pre-prime learning his trade but its still a quality win, going 1-1 against Lloyd Marshall, then wins over Overlin (who beat Ezzard Charles), then past his prime he goes the distance with Ezzard Charles and Jimmy Bivins

Thats a who's who of LHW history hes been in the ring with despite being a MW
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:26 PM   #9
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HOW DID THIS GUY SCHOOL ARCHIE MOORE...

...AND ACHIEVE NEVER BEING DISCUSSED AT ALL!!!!???
His title reign was too brief/undistinguished. It was a common malady of the '30s MWs, who were often very talented but failed to live up to expectations once they got their hands on a title. I've often said, sometimes it seems a fighter is more celebrated if they never win a title than if they get one and fail to make good on it.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:15 PM   #10
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Main Reason,
He couldn't break an egg with a sledgehammer but was certainly a master boxer. Billy Conn bitched about how unhittable he was.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:47 PM   #11
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sorry for being ignorant but who is it?
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:13 PM   #12
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sorry for being ignorant but who is it?
I think it's Teddy Yarosz.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:36 PM   #14
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What also hurt Yarosz's legacy is that he appears to have been shut out of a title shot after losing the title. After losing the title and recovering from knee surgery, he racked up a pretty impressive string of wins, which included Babe Risko(his former conqueror), Ken Overlin, Solly Kreiger, and Lou Brouillard, and re-established himself as the leading contender, yet he was twice bypassed for shots at Freddie Steele's title. First Risko got the shot, after Yaorsz had beaten him (though possibly he had a return clause contract with Steele?) and then Frank Battaglia somehow got the next shot, even though Yarosz had won what was billed as a final eliminator against Kreiger. Then after Yarosz was finally upset by Billy Conn, it was like, "Too bad, you lost your title shot."
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