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Old 12-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #16
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He buggered up my Panini sportsman collection, in the mid 80s, because I got a ton of Bramble swaps!

That said, he was IMO royally screwed in the Camacho fight, and showed a ton of heart in the Chavez fight.

I was lucky enough to watch the Ramirez fight live; Edwin was a class act.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:00 PM   #17
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Rosario started out at 118 or 122 I believe. He was a brilliant boxer in the early stages and had great movement. He kind of fell in love with his power as he moved up. Maybe the Viruet stoppage is when that started. Still, it was shocking at the time how Chavez took him apart. Chavez was only a slight favorite as I recall. I thought he deserved the decision against Camacho but I've seen worse decisions.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:32 PM   #18
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In his younger days i think he is brillaint to watch a fluid boxer-puncher with good skills and a big punch in either hand. But as he got older he went away from the skills and into the power and it cost him. Even to an extent he was going power hungry in the first Ramirez fight which is a classic and the 2nd one hes looking to bomb ramirez out.
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:03 PM   #19
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My question still is...did anybody EVER actually deck Edwin Rosario?
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:42 PM   #20
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My question still is...did anybody EVER actually deck Edwin Rosario?
I believe he was down in his rematch with Randall, and I'm almost certain he was down in one of the last bouts of his career (shortly before his fatal overdose).

I know he reportedly went a long time before being officially floored, but I'm pretty sure he was down at some point before his career/life ended.
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rc i dont think anyone ever did
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:18 PM   #22
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rc i dont think anyone ever did
Even in that one round tko loss to the Japanese guy near the end of his career he wasn't decked..he got the crap beat out of him but he didn't go down...maybe like My2Sense said that Randall put him down in their rematch...I'd like to research this.
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he was a pretty tough guy
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Anyone got some insight on Edwin Rosario?
He was one of the biggest punchers of his day, but was somewhat limited in other areas. Particularly, his chin and resilience weren't really that good. If he couldn't simply overwhelm a fighter with his power, he sometimes was in trouble. In both his fights with JL Ramirez (both of which were intended as "showcase" fights for Rosario on his home turf), he got off to strong starts, but then seemed to cave when Ramirez stood up to his early powerpunches and came back. Against Howard Davis, he also good off to a strong start, but then after being rocked by a clean shot from Davis, he was tentative about coming forward and allowed Davis to pile up points through the middle rounds, before finally stepping it up in the last few rounds and just barely eeking out a decision.
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He was one of the biggest punchers of his day, but was somewhat limited in other areas. Particularly, his chin and resilience weren't really that good. If he couldn't simply overwhelm a fighter with his power, he sometimes was in trouble. In both his fights with JL Ramirez (both of which were intended as "showcase" fights for Rosario on his home turf), he got off to strong starts, but then seemed to cave when Ramirez stood up to his early powerpunches and came back. Against Howard Davis, he also good off to a strong start, but then after being rocked by a clean shot from Davis, he was tentative about coming forward and allowed Davis to pile up points through the middle rounds, before finally stepping it up in the last few rounds and just barely eeking out a decision.
Thanks.

I realize that Chavez wasn't an overwhelming favorite going into their fight. Was this mainly because Rosario hit like a mule and Chavez wasn't all that of an elusive target?
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:38 PM   #26
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I realize that Chavez wasn't an overwhelming favorite going into their fight. Was this mainly because Rosario hit like a mule and Chavez wasn't all that of an elusive target?
More like Rosario was at a career high note (coming off his big win over Bramble) and Chavez was not really an established great yet.
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Thanks.

I realize that Chavez wasn't an overwhelming favorite going into their fight. Was this mainly because Rosario hit like a mule and Chavez wasn't all that of an elusive target?
Chavez was also moving up in weight vs Rosario to add to the reasons above.

Rosario was dropped in the Randall rematch.
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Chavez was also moving up in weight vs Rosario to add to the reasons above.

Rosario was dropped in the Randall rematch.
Drpped by Randall eh? Damn that frankie Randall was something else...the first guy to deck both Chavez AND Rosario.
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Drpped by Randall eh? Damn that frankie Randall was something else...the first guy to deck both Chavez AND Rosario.
It's a long time ago but i think both hit the canvas in the same round, an early one. Randall had one loss in almost a decade. Why he wasn't getting more credit and securing better opposition i don't know.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:55 AM   #30
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Manny isn't really a Lightweight and never has been, but I think from what I've seen of Rosario, he'd be made to order.
if a gauy was a light flyweight , bantamweight , whatever , featherweight , sfw , lww and yes , also a lightweight , i think it is safe to consider him a lightweight.
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