Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales I (Genero Hernandez Commentary)

[Addie]

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[bladerunner]

I have that version,Hernandez is a very good commentator and another one that has the fight for Barrera just like HBO had and the Sky Sports crew had.

[Mantequilla]

Barrera won this by at least 4 points imo.Far higher quality of punching on display from him.

[WhataRock]

I never get sick of watching this fight...easily in my top 10 favorite slugfests of alltime.

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by Mantequilla

Barrera won this by at least 4 points imo.Far higher quality of punching on display from him.

Agreed I had it 8-4 MAB could have been 9-3. 1 of the greatest fights of all time too

I'd disagree with Addie who said his prime came later, I think MABs prime was this fight, because while being technically and defensively smooth at this time he also had more heart, I don't think he ever really went to war the same way again he lost his desire for war after this fight

How did everyone else score it other than Bill Butcher

[Addie]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Agreed I had it 8-4 MAB could have been 9-3. 1 of the greatest fights of all time too

I'd disagree with Addie who said his prime came later, I think MABs prime was this fight, because while being technically and defensively smooth at this time he also had more heart, I don't think he ever really went to war the same way again he lost his desire for war after this fight

How did everyone else score it other than Bill Butcher

I think Barrera's prime was from 1998-2003.

[bladerunner]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Agreed I had it 8-4 MAB could have been 9-3. 1 of the greatest fights of all time too

I'd disagree with Addie who said his prime came later, I think MABs prime was this fight, because while being technically and defensively smooth at this time he also had more heart, I don't think he ever really went to war the same way again he lost his desire for war after this fight

How did everyone else score it other than Bill Butcher

I feel the same way,after this fight he went to a boxer-puncher mode and even in the few times he went to war like in the third fight with Morales he could no longer sustain a high pace for twelve rounds like he did in they're first fight.

[anarci]

I had Barrera by 2 points. I was fortunate enough to attend this fight, Barrera was a 2to1 favorite right before the night of the fight. I put 100$ on Barrera about a 2hours before fight time. Got robbed along with Barrera.

[Addie]

Originally Posted by anarci

I had Barrera by 2 points. I was fortunate enough to attend this fight, Barrera was a 2to1 favorite right before the night of the fight. I put 100$ on Barrera about a 2hours before fight time. Got robbed along with Barrera.

Commentary seem to think Marco was a 6-1 underdog.

[Addie]

Originally Posted by bladerunner

I feel the same way,after this fight he went to a boxer-puncher mode and even in the few times he went to war like in the third fight with Morales he could no longer sustain a high pace for twelve rounds like he did in they're first fight.

But he waged his best ever performances around 1998-2003.

Paul Llyod, Jesus Salud, Morales I, Hamed, Sanchez, and he was as good as ever against Tapia.

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by Addie

But he waged his best ever performances around 1998-2003.

Paul Llyod, Jesus Salud, Morales I, Hamed, Sanchez, and he was as good as ever against Tapia.

I think he clearly looked past prime in Morales 2, and it wasn't because of what Morales did but because MAB lost a step for me

[Addie]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

I think he clearly looked past prime in Morales 2, and it wasn't because of what Morales did but because MAB lost a step for me

Marco looked as good physically as he ever had done, but his tactics against a Morales, who was trying to box too, didn't make either of them look good. His stamina was still in tact, as was his hand speed, and combination punching. I didn't see any signs of Marco having faded.

[anarci]

Originally Posted by Addie

Commentary seem to think Marco was a 6-1 underdog.

Well apparently they were wrong Addie! Unless ive gone senile at 39No one would know better than yours truly. Maybe he opened up that wide but come fight time it was exactly 2 to 1. As was already counting my chips since i thought Barrera would pull it off,if it was 6 to 1 i surely would have been even more pist.

I still dont see how it was ever 6to1,because although many thought Barrera was on the downslide and Morales peaking there is no way it was that wide if so i would have put way more money down Anyways i knew diffrent since Barrera was on a roll and seemed to have been his old self again after the Jones fights,he was blowing out guys in between those fights.

To be honest i wasnt as impressed with Morales back then as everyone else (after I came around) was,and Barrera was one of my 2 favorite fighters at the time,along with Oscar and Vargas. SO i was betting with my head and my heart. I put my money at the fight site not no other casino,Mandalay Bay sports book.

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by Addie

Marco looked as good physically as he ever had done, but his tactics against a Morales, who was trying to box too, didn't make either of them look good. His stamina was still in tact, as was his hand speed, and combination punching. I didn't see any signs of Marco having faded.

How do we know his stamina was as good given he didnt fight at the same tempo against the same class of opponent again? Even if it was Barrera had lost his blood lust and changed from a pressure fighter to boxer puncher. Regardless above 122lbs just wasnt Barreras division

[anarci]

ok Addie just heard what they said,I guess he did open up that wide but as i said i put my money down 2hours before fight time,and alot of money from knowledgable fans must have come in late as -600 was ridiculous. It was -200 by fight time. I dont know if you have been to Vegas or know gambling but the odds will shorten when money comes in for the underdog cause they wanna cover their casinos wanna cover their asses.