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Old 09-27-2007, 10:59 AM   #1
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What was the general concensus going into the fight as far as who would win and how? Was the fight anticipated as much as their 1st and 2nd fights?
And which fight did you enjoy more: The Fight of the Century or the Thrilla?
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:03 AM   #2
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The feeling was Frazier was damaged goods, Ali nearly had him out of their in their poor second bout, it seemed Frazier had not properly recovered from losing the Championship to Foreman.
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The feeling was Frazier was damaged goods, Ali nearly had him out of their in their poor second bout, it seemed Frazier had not properly recovered from losing the Championship to Foreman.

Funny enough, Boxing News predicted that Frazier would win on points.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:11 AM   #4
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One more question: How much did Ali and Frazier make for this fight?
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:19 AM   #5
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One more question: How much did Ali and Frazier make for this fight?

Their purses were $ 4 million and $2 mill respctively, with a percentage of the gate.


Answering your earlier question about the first and 3rd fights. I couldn't separate them. I love both equally. Two of my very favourites.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:35 AM   #6
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I find Manilla hard to watch, Frazier is just eating up punches towards the end and with hindsight we know how hurt he was. But I still enjoy III more than I. They both give in that fight.
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I find Manilla hard to watch, Frazier is just eating up punches towards the end and with hindsight we know how hurt he was. But I still enjoy III more than I. They both give in that fight.
I actually found it a bit harder to watch those body shots Frazier was hitting Ali with. Unreal how much punishment those two took.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:41 AM   #8
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I actually found it a bit harder to watch those body shots Frazier was hitting Ali with. Unreal how much punishment those two took.

Yeah, those two ruined each other alright.
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No he didn't, dickhead. He briefly stunned him in the second. Frazier had his feet firmly planted and wasn't going down, whether or not the ref ****ed up.
I think you have got a not so hidden agenda behind that comment.... By all means defend your hero, but in return accept you lack the emotional control on this subject to be objective. Ali nearly had Frazier out in that fight.
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Absolutely brutal fight, they both took the most amount of punishment they ever had taken in a fight in Manilla that night.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:31 PM   #11
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I think you have got a not so hidden agenda behind that comment.... By all means defend your hero, but in return accept you lack the emotional control on this subject to be objective. Ali nearly had Frazier out in that fight.
Did he? I've never seen their 2nd fight.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:46 PM   #12
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I prefer Manila, its probably the greatest heavyweight fight ever.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:09 PM   #13
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But you have idiots like Tbooze who seem to believe so.
Count to ten Thad; remember that emotional attachment thingy, with it you can not debate.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:24 PM   #14
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I can't really see Ali knocking out Frazier.
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He's not the first Ali fan to claim that, but it's completely false and ignorant. And he tells me that I have an emotional attachment.
I have little time for Ali and his arrogance, I think people with a faith have a massive flaw...

So if I did have an emotional attachment to him, it would be a negative.

Ali was with little doubt a superb fighter; Frazier too was excellent, it was just Ali had a way to get Joe smokin' when he did not want too. Although crude, using the Uncle Tom phrase was brilliant pyschology, not least because Frazier knew deep down, there was a hint of thuth to it...

Frazier had the style to mess Ali up and after fight one Ali knew that and used other tools to get the job done. Ali should not of been on verge of stopping Frazier in two in 1974, but getting inside Frazier's mind, got the job done.
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