Muhammad Qawi vs. Rocky Marciano 15 rounds@185 cw, both prime , who wins and how ?

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

so you pick the archie moore who was KO'd by Jimmy Bivins and KOBY1 Leonard Morrow to last more than 7 rounds against foreman and to beat a young evander holyfield at 190 ?

I pick the Archie Moore who KO'd 131 men.

If Qawi had fought over 200 fights in Moore's era (more like eras) he would have had many more losses to fly by night fighters that we could discuss.

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

so you pick the archie moore who was KO'd by Jimmy Bivins and KOBY1 Leonard Morrow to last more than 7 rounds against foreman and to beat a young evander holyfield at 190 ?

Moore's career in a nutshell!

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

Have you ever seen Moore fight?

no. but assuming you did , what was so special about his technique ?
i did see qawi fight .

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

Moore's career in a nutshell!

it was just a reminder.
i also did not bring all of qawi's achievements

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

no. but assuming you did , what was so special about his technique ?
i did see qawi fight .

Just do yourself a favour and watch some of his fights. Be honest with you I rate Qawi and think I he would give Archie a real tough fight but when you use examples like the ones you've just used your just gonna open yourself to ridicule.

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

no. but assuming you did , what was so special about his technique ?
i did see qawi fight .

Here's a recent post i made about Moore on a different thread.


Just watched Moore vs Bivins 5 last night. The pair of them just oozed class. Feinting, slipping, sliding and some great exchanges. Don't know how much they got for it but I was thinking this would definitely be a ppv today and money well spent. Moore put him down in the 9th with a right uppercut and it looked like Bivins hit the canvas with his face injuring his eye

[PowerPuncher]

I think he'd give Marciano a tough fight but ultimately lose a decision, Qawi had a hell of chin, very good defense and excellent counter puncher which would upset Marciano's rythm. But the Rocks workrate and strength would tell down the stretch he'd break Qawi down hurt him to the body and win a UD

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

I think he'd give Marciano a tough fight but ultimately lose a decision, Qawi had a hell of chin, very good defense and excellent counter puncher which would upset Marciano's rythm. But the Rocks workrate and strength would tell down the stretch he'd break Qawi down hurt him to the body and win a UD

i would agree with you. Framk used Qawi's performance against Foreman as an indication of how he would go against marciano. Marciano brings a different set of problems than the big powerful but slower Foreman. Marciano is faster, sets a faster pace and is also powerful and a 185 qawi is gonna feel them shot's. Marciano by late stoppage for me in a war.

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

i would agree with you. Framk used Qawi's performance against Foreman as an indication of how he would go against marciano.

no. i used it to compare him to moore in response to the belief that moore was better than him. it was a comparison to moore's hypothetic fights against foreman (and also holyfield in that comparison).

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

a catchweight of 185 convenient for both. 180 for those who prefer it.
as long as you consider both prime at the weight.
15 rounds.
a hard question.
marciano was knocked down by moore and walcott.
i believe that qawi is significantly better at least than moore for sure , even h2h and of course p4p.
remember qawi took holyfield the distance and i doubt if holyfield deserved the decision there.
also remember his foreman fight. he really made george look like what he really ever been .

I don't think there is much point in going further with this.

[kenmore]

I don't think Marciano would have much trouble with Qawi. Qawi would fight with The Rock.