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Old 12-06-2009, 06:06 PM   #16
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I can't think of a better active fighter who does it better then Hopkin's.
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:48 PM   #17
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John Ruiz is clearly the champ of this.
Damn it, I thought I was gonna drop this bomb.

Also, Henry Maske, Bernard Hopkins, Jersey Joe Walcott all come to mind and had different ways of accomplishing the task.
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:16 PM   #18
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I figure I'll throw out Arturo Godoy here. Many feel he eeked out a points win over Louis the first time but was reamed, as Mr Bill would say.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:10 PM   #19
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Calzaghe, Jones, and Hopkins. Aslo Toney. Ruiz can do it with clinching, and cheap fouls.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:04 PM   #20
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I can't believe Carlos Monzon hasn't been mentioned. He's the epitome.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:17 PM   #21
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I considered Greb, but Harry did have some problems with master boxers Loughran and Mike Gibbons. (After first squaring off with the Phantom, Greb told his manager, "Next time, sign me up to fight just one guy.") Tunney also figured him out as their series progressed. As I said though, I did consider him, and it's a perfectly good answer.
Fighting Tommy and Gene with one eye may wanna factor, and he beat Phantom Mike in ten!
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:11 AM   #22
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Imagine Fritzie with thumbless gloves. (Or Holmes, for that matter.)
I remember the Bonecrusher,Scott Frank fight among others, Holmes with thumbless gloves would be to handicap him. It was one of his best weapons
and Fritzie could teach them all some tricks
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:14 AM   #23
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Max Baer comes first to my mind. This trait of his was a key reason why many experts believed he would have had the best chance to upset Holmes, among Larry's predecessors as heavyweight champion. He had a crazed unpredictability well suited for breaking the mastery of control brought to the ring by a Holmes. He was good in rematches, avenging decision losses to Shaaf, Risko and Farr, also all on points, proving he wasn't wholly dependent on the knockout to win. (Nearly did take out Shaaf though, in a sort of preplay to Liston-Whitehurst II.)

I think Baer was a excellent fighter, it was his dedication and focus that wondered but he had the tools
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:22 AM   #24
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Carlos Monzon would throw 'half jabs', they came out slow, then gather alot of pace. This caused opponents to block/evade too early, really effective.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:55 PM   #26
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Ken Norton was a master at breaking up a smooth boxers rhythm. He was poision to boxers as he proved against Ali and Holmes.

As some have said Bernard Hopkins is also a master at taking you out your rhythm.......
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:02 PM   #27
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I can't believe Walcott hasn't been mentioned yet (?). Definitely him. His feet said A but his fists said B, which often translates to surprise knockdown/out. Even some of the greatest men ever to lace them up, like Louis, Charles and Marciano, had trouble figuring him out.

Calzaghe also. Kessler held advantages in athletic prowess, power, youth (12 years or so), technical ability, yet Calzaghe completely threw him off with his rhythm breaking style.

Hopkins, Monzon and Vitali Klitschko are others.

I watched Tony Thompson last weekend and he qualifies as well, even if he isn't half as good as the former names. He was slower and lesser powerful, but outlanded his opponent something like 5:1 because of his great timing. Timing is extremely important.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:41 PM   #28
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Laguna and Rodriguez could both break up an opponent's rhythm in fine style via herky-jerky catlike movement (and strength on the inside from Rodriguez).

So could Saddler and Zivic, though for different reasons.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:59 PM   #29
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As far as modern fighters are concerned, it's really hard to look good against Joshua Clottey.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:31 PM   #30
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Carlos Monzon would throw 'half jabs', they came out slow, then gather alot of pace. This caused opponents to block/evade too early, really effective.
Good observation...

But that's the best avatar here. Never seen that picture before. What year is it from?
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