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Old 09-27-2007, 06:08 PM   #16
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Default Re: Liddell paid $500,000 for loss, Jardine $14,000 for win.

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No, the article says his purse was 7 + 7, I believe that was the contracted fight purse. I have no doubt he gets other money from Zuffa than fight purses.
You dont see anything wrong with a fighter being brought in by a multimillion dollar PPV revenue earner, to lose for 7,000 in the main event?

Lets be honest , no one expected Jardine to get an extra 7,000 $ for winning.

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Old 09-27-2007, 06:21 PM   #17
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You dont see anything wrong with a fighter being brought in by a multimillion dollar PPV revenue earner, to lose for 7,000 in the main event?

Lets be honest , no one expected Jardine to get an extra 7,000 $ for winning.
Apparantly Jardine doesn't. If you want to believe that all he made that night was 14k, fine, but its not what happened. Plus he will now get a new contract, you know, those things you voluntarily sign that determine your future fight purses, and it will be bigger than his last one.

If Jardine could be making more money somewhere else, he probably would be, its the free market.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:26 PM   #18
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Apparantly Jardine doesn't. If you want to believe that all he made that night was 14k, fine, but its not what happened. Plus he will now get a new contract, you know, those things you voluntarily sign that determine your future fight purses, and it will be bigger than his last one.

If Jardine could be making more money somewhere else, he probably would be, its the free market.
Where do you think all this extra money comes from? Huh? If White thinks Jardine is worth only 7,000, how much do you think (who ever it may be company) thinks Jardine is worth for the advertisement. Endorsing products or whatever, still that is entirely seperate from being paid to fight. White pays his fighters shit.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:28 PM   #19
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Default Re: Liddell paid $500,000 for loss, Jardine $14,000 for win.

Listen, beebs, these "extra" bonuses are bullshit. Only 1 fighter gets them. Best sub, best ko, best fight. People at lower levels who get 10k or less perfight do NOT get any sponsorship you speak off nor any percentage of the ppv or the gate. Even if they did get percentage it would be so minimal that they would get like 5k extra. Thats nothing for an athlete who is 100% committed a sport.
Injuries WILL prevent them from competing often.

Instead of this bullshit they should have a purse where a winner gets 75% loser gets 25%, THEN we'll see Liddell actually TRY. The guy wasn't doing shit the whole fight except getting kicked. He had no motivation cause he's gona get the money anyways.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:32 PM   #20
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I am sure Jardine had all sorts of sponsors , and endorsements after getting KTFO in one round by Alexander, lol . He was brought in to get knocked out the same again, but Liddell is utterly shot.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:54 PM   #21
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$7,000

If you do the calculation, I wonder how much Dana White makes per fight

$7,000 is down right disgusting
That doesn't even come close to showing how much Jardine actually made. These guys get hooked up with huge endorsment deals, and the UFC pays to offset the rest.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:58 PM   #22
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Listen, beebs, these "extra" bonuses are bullshit. Only 1 fighter gets them. Best sub, best ko, best fight. People at lower levels who get 10k or less perfight do NOT get any sponsorship you speak off nor any percentage of the ppv or the gate.
Those are not what I am talking about, although thats 160k assuming theres at least 1 sub and 1 ko per card, I am saying that they get paid as employees of a company, not just for their fights.

Not all of the money they get has to be reported to the Athletic Commisions, they are not the IRS, how many fighters have to say this until people accept it?

Both the fighters and the Organizaton have reasons for wanting to keep the fighters total income private, its legal to do so, so it only makes sense that this is what is done.

When K1 holds tournaments in the US, the fight purses are like 1k each, do you actually believe thats all those fighters are making as well?
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:00 PM   #23
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That doesn't even come close to showing how much Jardine actually made. These guys get hooked up with huge endorsment deals, and the UFC pays to offset the rest.
Who are all these sponsors? If they are paying all this money and no one knows who the **** they are, obviously it is not working out too good. I have seen Liddell in Xcience or whatever it is commercials. Not too much else. Especially for average fighters like Jardine.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:03 PM   #24
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Who are all these sponsors? If they are paying all this money and no one knows who the **** they are, obviously it is not working out too good. I have seen Liddell in Xcience or whatever it is commercials. Not too much else. Especially for average fighters like Jardine.
Chuck's on record as saying the Xyience deal made him a millionaire.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:11 PM   #25
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Chuck's on record as saying the Xyience deal made him a millionaire.
It is niave to think that all these mid-card, average fighters are getting so much money from endosements. Like any sport , only the best players are going to get the big endorsements. Alot of the mid-card fighters probably get small deals to cover training in such. You dont see bench warmers in the NBA pitching shoe commercials. Regardless , endorsemants is seperate from being paid to play in the NBA. Which NBA players bank in, and the UFC pays shit.

Like Jardine was paid 14,000 $, but was paid 86, 000 $ in endosements for his ability to fight.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:25 PM   #26
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It is niave to think that all these mid-card, average fighters are getting so much money from endosements. Like any sport , only the best players are going to get the big endorsements. Alot of the mid-card fighters probably get small deals to cover training in such. You dont see bench warmers in the NBA pitching shoe commercials. Regardless , endorsemants is seperate from being paid to play in the NBA. Which NBA players bank in, and the UFC pays shit.

Like Jardine was paid 14,000 $, but was paid 86, 000 $ in endosements for his ability to fight.
Well if they are average, they are replaceable, so why pay them as much?

Again, its not endorsements I'm talking about, its the fact that they get money from the UFC that is not part of the fight purse.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:37 PM   #28
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Don king pays his fighters more, even after he steals most of it.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:14 PM   #29
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the fighters won't say, because dana will blacklist them, and they're probably embarrassed to be getting screwed to that degree.

I came across an old ring magazine where anthony jones, an obscure contender made 125 thousand dollars to fight pernell whitaker, a top boxer but one considered 'boring' in 1990. how many ufc fighters make the kind of money a slightly above average WELTERWEIGHT boxer made fighting a non drawing champion 17 YEARS ago.

endorsements, bonuses my ****ing ass, dana and the freitas are making a huge killing, and they're ****ing the fighters, who put up with it because like the famous gambler said to his friend 'bill, don't you know this game is rigged?' and he says 'I know it, but it's the only game in town'.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:14 PM   #30
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Are we talking Gross or Net earnings here?
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