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Old 09-27-2007, 10:38 PM   #31
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Default Re: Liddell paid $500,000 for loss, Jardine $14,000 for win.

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Are we talking Gross or Net earnings here?
does it matter? liddell made a decent purse, but his opponent made less than 3% what he did, and that's only because he WON.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:04 PM   #32
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Default Re: Liddell paid $500,000 for loss, Jardine $14,000 for win.

If Jardine only made 14,000 for his win and fights 3-4 times a year he would be bankrupt. The cost of training full time is huge not to mention nutrition costs and every thing else. They make alot more than those numbers suggest or they wouldn't be able to afford to get to the arena for the fight.
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:40 AM   #33
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does it matter? liddell made a decent purse, but his opponent made less than 3% what he did, and that's only because he WON.
Yes it does matter and i'm guessing you don't know
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:24 AM   #34
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Default Re: Liddell paid $500,000 for loss, Jardine $14,000 for win.

$14k is disrespectful. He isn't as big as Chuck but if you pay him $14k that means he doesn't deserve to be in a main event.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:40 AM   #35
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Default Re: Liddell paid $500,000 for loss, Jardine $14,000 for win.

They have to be getting some other money. You cannot live off of that. UFC also has to be paying for their contracted fighters training expenses also.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:44 AM   #36
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They have to be getting some other money. You cannot live off of that. UFC also has to be paying for their contracted fighters training expenses also.
A lot of lower grade fighters have other jobs. I.E they would be coaches in Dojos etc.

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Old 09-28-2007, 04:19 PM   #37
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Yes it does matter and i'm guessing you don't know
evidently you missed the point of my post. whether or not these guys get bonuses, endorsements whatever, they're fighters, and they're not making nearly enough doing what they're training for, fighting.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:44 PM   #38
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That doesn't even come close to showing how much Jardine actually made. These guys get hooked up with huge endorsment deals, and the UFC pays to offset the rest.
The masses of forum retards still haven't figured this out. Babalu has said his bonus for fighting Chuck the second time was 250,000, handed to him in envelope after the fight by Dana White. Randy said his bonus was 7 figures for his recent fights. Jardine made his damn money too, Greg Jackson said Jardine got paid an ample amount for his performance in bonus.

They do it this way because it hides their financial capabilities from other orgs that will try to bargain away their fighters. All you ****ing business wizards should just stroll down to Zuffa and try running the UFC and we'll see where you get.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:29 PM   #39
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Until I see some ****ing proof i will take fighters words over yours or Dana Whites.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:35 PM   #40
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Until I see some ****ing proof i will take fighters words over yours or Dana Whites.
Fighters like Babalu and Randy Couture?
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:49 PM   #41
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Until I see some ****ing proof i will take fighters words over yours or Dana Whites.
Find me some fighters words going the other way. Every interview I have heard all the fighters say is how well the UFC takes care of them. There are enough options with deep pockets like EliteXC, K-1, Bodog, and Strikeforce that the UFC has to do what it can to keep them happy. It's really none of our business what these guys make, as far as I'm concerned it's between the org and the fighter. If they are in the ring, then obviously an agreement satisfactory to both parties was reached at some point.

And I didn't see any of this bitching when K-1 holds it's Las Vegas card and evert fighter gets reported as being paid $2,000 or when Pride as well published completely bogus payouts. Here is the NSAC reported Pride Real Deal payouts:

Fedor Emelianenko ($100,000) def. Mark Coleman ($70,000)
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua ($25,000) def. Kevin Randleman ($40,000)
Josh Barnett ($60,000) def. Pawel Nastula ($20,000)
Butterbean ($30,000) def. Sean O'Haire ($15,000)
Dan Henderson ($50,000) def. Vitor Belfort ($30,000)
Phil Baroni ($15,000) def. Yosuke Nishijima ($15,000)
Kazuhiro Nakamura ($10,000) def. Travis Galbraith ($2,000)
Robbie Lawler ($10,000) def. Joey Villasenor ($3,000)

Wow, looks just the UFC's. Fedor, the greatest fighter in the world, got 1/5 of what most top guys get reported in the UFC. In reality he was pocketing over a million. These athletic comission numbers don't mean shit.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:56 PM   #42
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Default Re: Liddell paid $500,000 for loss, Jardine $14,000 for win.

"Under the pressure
of literally not being able to pay next months bills I made a choice. I had to
fight and did whatever I could to do so" - Hermes Franca.
Plus, when i talked to him he said something like he lives from paycheck to paycheck since he doesn't have any jobs.

Obviously they're gona take care of guys who bring Zuffa money. Liddell and Couture are their boys.

Believe me Franca isn't alone in UFC who lives from paycheck to paycheck. I just think it would be nice to raise those guy's salary a little bit. I'm sure guys like Couture and Liddell are just fine with 500k per LOSS.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:06 PM   #43
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"Under the pressure
of literally not being able to pay next months bills I made a choice. I had to
fight and did whatever I could to do so" - Hermes Franca.

He was saying this in an attempt to get out of being caught with steroids, so I take that for what it's worth.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:14 PM   #44
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He was saying this in an attempt to get out of being caught with steroids, so I take that for what it's worth.
Like i said i asked him that in person, he said the above. I'll take it with much more assurance than yours and beebs' "UFC takes good care of their fighters."

He WAS already caught when he wrote the letter. Also, it is impossible to get out of suspension and fine for using drugs. Everyone knows it including him. So even the idea that his plea guilty would set him free is ridiculous.

That said, lets remind ourselves that he WAS fighting for THE UFC BELT. At the time he WAS number 2 in UFC light weights. Dunno about you, but IMO number 2 in ANY division shouldn't be living from paycheck to paycheck. Not MMA, not in todays age.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:51 PM   #45
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Any plastic surgeons amongst us? Those nasty cuts must cost a bucketload to get fixed eg Forrest Griffin's cut so whatever the UFC fighters get paid I figure there are a lot of outgoings
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