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Old 12-09-2009, 10:26 AM   #1
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Default does marvin hagler defeat sugar ray leonard if fights i5 rounds..

had bad feeling about this for years,I think Yes,hagler was not on his game that night but leonard would only fight in short bursts & then run.leonard was slowing down and hagler would haved KO`d sugar if there had not been unfortunate deaths and 15 shortened to 12 .any thoughts gents...??
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:33 AM   #2
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I have no idea, but I know what happened over the 12 round distance.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:40 AM   #3
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Hagler probably wins over 15 but doesnt stop Leonard, then again maybe Ray would have got a second wind and edged a couple more rounds after the 12th, maybe Hagler starts even later in a 15 round fight
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:41 AM   #4
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Its will always be one of thsos what if's. Like Dempsey vs Wills or the VK Lewis eye cut thing.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:44 AM   #5
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On that particular night,I doubt whether the distance would have made any difference.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:46 AM   #6
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I have no idea, but I know what happened over the 12 round distance.
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& prime for prime, Leonard outboxes him over 12 or 15.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:46 AM   #7
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Its will always be one of thsos what if's. Like Dempsey vs Wills or the VK Lewis eye cut thing.
I just don't understand why we get all the moaning about Ray's demands now? Marvin had no problems with any of it. He was confident he'd knock Ray out inside 12, regardless of the gloves, regardless of the size of the ring, and so did the fans and critics. Now, we talk more about "what if" and the decision than we comment on the actual achievement of a former Welterweight moving up and beating a Middleweight who hadn't lost in 11 years despite a lay off. Madness.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:47 AM   #8
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prime for prime Hagler wouldnt need the 15 round limit anyways. based on what I seen in his short career against Geraldo, lalonde, Duran, Howard, Norris, Camacho, leonard's chin always been somewhat of a problem. I feel Hagler would take him out early
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:49 AM   #9
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prime for prime Hagler wouldnt need the 15 round limit anyways. based on what I seen in his short career against Geraldo, lalonde, Duran, Howard, Norris, Camacho, leonard's chin always been somewhat of a problem. I feel Hagler would take him out early
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I just don't understand why we get all the moaning about Ray's demands now? Marvin had no problems with any of it. He was confident he'd knock Ray out inside 12, regardless of the gloves, regardless of the size of the ring, and so did the fans and critics. Now, we talk more about "what if" and the decision than we comment on the actual achievement of a former Welterweight moving up and beating a Middleweight who hadn't lost in 11 years despite a lay off. Madness.
Leonard isnt a well liked fighter by the majority but he was the best fighter of the 80s & the haters just have to accept that shit.

He beat all the best fighters at one point & showed the heart of a champion in his rare losses.
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Leonard isnt a well liked fighter by the majority but he was the best fighter of the 80s & the haters just have to accept that shit.

He beat all the best fighters at one point & showed the heart of a champion in his rare losses.
Bullshit. Leonard showed his weaknesses against Norris and Camacho, just ask Rooster. It's ****ing awesome that he gives Hagler a free pass for supposedly being shot against Leonard, but then when Leonard fights Camacho in 1997 after being inactive for 6 years...it's a talking point. Comedy at its best!
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Bullshit. Leonard showed his weaknesses against Norris and Camacho, just ask Rooster. It's ****ing awesome that he gives Hagler a free pass for supposedly being shot against Leonard, but then when Leonard fights Camacho in 1997 after being inactive for 6 years...it's a talking point. Comedy at its best!
Sorry but it's true. leonard had no trouble boxing and making a fool out of someone as long as they were slow of foot and hand but against my man Norris? Well, that's a whole other story.

back to back Duran and Norris. Look what what Ray does with Duran. Now look what Terry does to Ray. Terry even come up and beat Ray at his best weight

Sleek, fast, dangerous, atheletic types - Ray can't compete

With Camacho I'll cut him some slack. He was washed up but so was Camacho. Prime for prime, Camacho still too fast for him. Before ten is over, Hector will open that ass wide open and make Ray his for life
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:03 AM   #13
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Sorry but it's true. leonard had no trouble boxing and making a fool out of someone as long as they were slow of foot and hand but against my man Norris? Well, that's a whole other story.
More MORE!!!

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back to back Duran and Norris. Look what what Ray does with Duran. Now look what Terry does to Ray. Terry even come up and beat Ray at his best weight


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He was washed up but so was Camacho. Prime for prime, Camacho still too fast for him. Before ten is over, Hector will open that ass wide open and make Ray his for life
Camacho beats Ray.

..I'll give you some credit Rooster, your absolutely hilarious.
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Camacho beats Ray.

..I'll give you some credit Rooster, your absolutely hilarious.
no fan of his wants to admit their man's shortcomings
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:12 PM   #15
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no fan of his wants to admit their man's shortcomings
You`d be as well staying out of threads involving Leonard, Hagler or Norris (in fact make that most threads, period).... not ONE poster respects your views, you are a complete laughing stock.

I for one will not respond to anymore of your delusional posts with anything other than this >

Class dismissed, now **** off
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