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Old 12-13-2009, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default Have there been any good deaf boxers?

I think there have been more blind/half-blind ones than deaf, but I'm unsure why that is. Certainly boxing inherently damages the eyes, but the ears must suffer as well.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:28 PM   #2
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I think there have been more blind/half-blind ones than deaf, but I'm unsure why that is. Certainly boxing inherently damages the eyes, but the ears must suffer as well.
Are you talking about guys who became disabled due to their in-ring experience? The thread title sounds like you're asking if there have been any naturally deaf people who were already so disabled before and while actively competing.

If the latter...

Mario D'Agata was briefly a bantamweight champion.

Gene Hairston was a good fighter; gave LaMotta a couple of tough fights, and had some good wins over Zivic, Young and Gavilan.

You can see some of him four minutes in here:
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:32 PM   #3
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Beat me to it MARIO D"GATA
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:33 PM   #4
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Holly Mimms? Stopped just once in his career towards the end from a nasty headbutt, durable oldschool guy. I think that was his name anyway.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:56 PM   #5
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Are you talking about guys who became disabled due to their in-ring experience? The thread title sounds like you're asking if there have been any naturally deaf people who were already so disabled before and while actively competing.

If the latter...

Mario D'Agata was briefly a bantamweight champion.

Gene Hairston was a good fighter; gave LaMotta a couple of tough fights, and had some good wins over Zivic, Young and Gavilan.

You can see some of him four minutes in here:
BORKED
You beat me to it, IB. A sidelight: Hairston was responsible world-wide for installing lights on top of the ring posts to signal the end of a round for deaf boxers.
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D'Agata im pretty sure in one of his fights a light broke above his corner and caught fire and abit of hot metal fell on D'Agata and burnt his shoulder and the referee made him continue and he lost on points.

One unlucky guy
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Have there been any good deaf boxers?

Pac halfway thru the Cotto fight is all I can think of.
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:22 PM   #8
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D'Agata im pretty sure in one of his fights a light broke above his corner and caught fire and abit of hot metal fell on D'Agata and burnt his shoulder and the referee made him continue and he lost on points.

One unlucky guy
You'd think that would get overturned to a NC or something...wow.
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D'Agata im pretty sure in one of his fights a light broke above his corner and caught fire and abit of hot metal fell on D'Agata and burnt his shoulder and the referee made him continue and he lost on points.

One unlucky guy


Wasn't that against Alphonse Halimi when he lost his bantamweight title? I have read about D'Agata but never saw him fight. I caught a glimpse of Halimi on Youtube losing his title to Becerra. A burn on the back must have been a painful thing to continue fighting with. It seems as though the fight should have ended on the spot allowing for D'Agata to retain his belt.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:18 PM   #10
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WHAT?
sorry, couldn't resist. To make up, Dummy Rowan.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:43 PM   #11
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Fitzie Fitzpatrick was deaf, and a ranked light heavyweight contender in the 1940s. He knocked a peak Ezzard Charles on his ass, was one of only three men to stop Pat Valentino, and dropped Lee Savold en route to a handy decision win despite giving away 24 pounds to Savold. As his grave marker proclaims: "W. VA.'S GREATEST BOXER."
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Great responses. Thanks, guys.
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[quote=Duodenum;5652687]Fitzie Fitzpatrick was deaf, and a ranked light heavyweight contender in the 1940s. He knocked a peak Ezzard Charles on his ass, was one of only three men to stop Pat Valentino, and dropped Lee Savold en route to a handy decision win despite giving away 24 pounds to Savold. As his grave marker proclaims: "W. VA.'S GREATEST BOXER."[/QUOTE]

A GEM, D. Never heard of Fitzpatrick. How'dya happen to uncover this?
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You'd think that would get overturned to a NC or something...wow.
apparently not, now taht musta hurt

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Wasn't that against Alphonse Halimi when he lost his bantamweight title? I have read about D'Agata but never saw him fight. I caught a glimpse of Halimi on Youtube losing his title to Becerra. A burn on the back must have been a painful thing to continue fighting with. It seems as though the fight should have ended on the spot allowing for D'Agata to retain his belt.
Not sure what fight it was in just remember the story
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Fitzie Fitzpatrick was deaf, and a ranked light heavyweight contender in the 1940s. He knocked a peak Ezzard Charles on his ass, was one of only three men to stop Pat Valentino, and dropped Lee Savold en route to a handy decision win despite giving away 24 pounds to Savold. As his grave marker proclaims: "W. VA.'S GREATEST BOXER."
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A GEM, D. Never heard of Fitzpatrick. How'dya happen to uncover this?
Well JG, a few months back, Rumsfeld was apparently bored on the job, and he created an interesting and challenging thread, asking us to name the greatest boxer from each of the 50 states. I set a rigorous criteria for myself in meeting this challenge. Each boxer had to be male (eliminating Christy Martin from consideration for West Virginia), professional (eliminating collegiate legend Robert Ranck for Wyoming), and a native born son of the state being represented. (This last self imposed restriction eliminated Billy Petrolle and Virgil Hill for North Dakota.)

Rummy's idle challenge lead to probably the best boxing research I've done while on ESB Classic, and with plenty of help, we managed to actually identify a native born son with winning records from all 50 states. West Virginia was one of the last states I found a representative for. (Wyoming might have been the last state I uncovered a native of, and Cowboy Eddie Anderson fit the bill nicely.)

Maybe I should try later to dig up that buried thread, and find out if we can supplement that now completed list with additional names for some of the more obscure and difficult states.
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