Bisping V Hamil UFC 75

EL BULLY · 06-25-2007, 03:58 PM

WOW! I wanted to see this fight since TUF3 ended. Hamil is a scary talented wrestler and I see him giving Bisping big problems. BUT Bisping is a dog and I hope he KTFO out of Hamil.

Also will be good to see Rampage V Henderson. If the rest of the card can live up to these two fights UFC will take off in UK big time (especially if Bisping wins again)

scurlaruntings · 06-25-2007, 04:12 PM

I really dont rate Bisping and still fail to see what the big deal is about him.His just a guy that won a reality TV series IMO.Hamil`s wrestling is nice but in my eyes thats all that seems to be his strong point.His an immensely strong guy and his GNP seems pretty good from the mount.To be honest as a guy thats partially deaf what his achieved is phenomenal and he sure as hell is no walk over for Bisping.In my eyes id probably favor Hamil as i just cant see Bispings key strengths.He just seems like an aggresive guy with heavy hands and not much else.

jimmie · 06-25-2007, 04:17 PM

Hamils striking is AWFUL I dont wanna see this guy fight.

scurlaruntings · 06-25-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmie

Hamils striking is AWFUL I dont wanna see this guy fight.

Dont get it twisted his hands are heavy from the mount.But the guy is pretty much just a wrestler..

jimmie · 06-25-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by scurlaruntings

Dont get it twisted his hands are heavy from the mount.But the guy is pretty much just a wrestler..

Ok he has decent ground and pound. But his STANDUP is laughable only one worse was that Mike Nickels guy he beat on TUF 3

Smith · 06-25-2007, 04:37 PM

Bisping has this fight in the bag, heart takes you a long way in this sport! After he beats Hammill, he has to fight a fighter from 6-15 in the light heavy ranking though!

scurlaruntings · 06-25-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by boydsmith

Bisping has this fight in the bag, heart takes you a long way in this sport! After he beats Hammill, he has to fight a fighter from 6-15 in the light heavy ranking though!

Shame thats not PRIDES old middelweight ranking..

Beebs · 06-25-2007, 06:28 PM

Really sort of a test for Bisping, Bisping by all accounts should win this fight, but it plays right into his weaknesses. Hamill is a tough wrestler, and Bisping is a small 205'er with bad takedown defense, so if he can get in there finish Hamill he will prove he is coming along as a complete fighter.

Hamill has an outside shot of winning, he has pretty good wrestling and just sick strength compared to Bisping, but that appears to be all, but then again we haven't seen him in a long time, maybe he has picked up his game alot and will come out and get an upset. If Hamill manages a win he deserves a a renewed contract.

Donut62 · 06-25-2007, 06:44 PM

It should be interesting. Hamill will put Bisping on his back, unless Mike wonder punches him at the get go. Given that Hamil punches like someone who's handicap is blindess and not hearing, it's a possibility. If you remember from the footage we saw on TUF 3 Hamil was absolutely schooling Bisping in grappling practice, Mike was getting pissed because Matt would sprawl on him without using his hands and get takedowns using only one arm and putting the other behind his back.

A smart build-up fight for Bisping. Hamil is a name because of TUF, he will put Mike in a new situation, and all the while he doesn't really pose a huge risk to derailing Mike with an embarassing loss.

Strike · 06-25-2007, 09:23 PM

Is it me or does Bisping look like he could have much better take down defence if he did not get so excited? He seems to get hyped and controlled by his adrenaline, basically the total opposite of someone like Fedor.

He cant help but look for bombs, lunge a bit and not set himself for takedown attempts.
A tought fight, where he has to work his way to a victory without just landing a big shot could well be the best thing that happens to him for his career.

Wilhelm · 06-25-2007, 09:49 PM

Bisping is a pretty well rounded fighter, and he's good enough on his feet to knock out the wide open Hamil. I also think he's good enough to beat Hamil on the ground. Not overpower him, of course, but beat him. Hamil is totally one dimensional and has been lucky with who he has faced so far.

J_Roth · 06-25-2007, 09:49 PM

Interesting fight. Can't wait to see it.

Tko4 · 06-25-2007, 09:52 PM

I'm not that impressed with Bisping. And while Hamill's wrestling is nice, his strikings and subs are awful. This won't tell us much about either man, but I say Bisping wins via GnP in the third.

Nuke · 06-26-2007, 12:34 AM

Bisping by triangle choke in the first, after Hamil takes a few on the chin he takes mike down and gets subbed.

oblate · 06-26-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Donut62

It should be interesting. Hamill will put Bisping on his back, unless Mike wonder punches him at the get go. Given that Hamil punches like someone who's handicap is blindess and not hearing, it's a possibility. If you remember from the footage we saw on TUF 3 Hamil was absolutely schooling Bisping in grappling practice, Mike was getting pissed because Matt would sprawl on him without using his hands and get takedowns using only one arm and putting the other behind his back.

A smart build-up fight for Bisping. Hamil is a name because of TUF, he will put Mike in a new situation, and all the while he doesn't really pose a huge risk to derailing Mike with an embarassing loss.

hamil was schooling him in wrestling but bisping was able to school him sub wise. remeber bisping is the one who inured hamils arm with an armlock.

06-25-2007, 03:58 PM	#1
EL BULLY Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,274 vCash: 1000	Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 WOW! I wanted to see this fight since TUF3 ended. Hamil is a scary talented wrestler and I see him giving Bisping big problems. BUT Bisping is a dog and I hope he KTFO out of Hamil. Also will be good to see Rampage V Henderson. If the rest of the card can live up to these two fights UFC will take off in UK big time (especially if Bisping wins again)
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06-25-2007, 04:12 PM	#2
scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By any means necessary Posts: 17,817 vCash: 1000	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 I really dont rate Bisping and still fail to see what the big deal is about him.His just a guy that won a reality TV series IMO.Hamil`s wrestling is nice but in my eyes thats all that seems to be his strong point.His an immensely strong guy and his GNP seems pretty good from the mount.To be honest as a guy thats partially deaf what his achieved is phenomenal and he sure as hell is no walk over for Bisping.In my eyes id probably favor Hamil as i just cant see Bispings key strengths.He just seems like an aggresive guy with heavy hands and not much else.
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06-25-2007, 04:17 PM	#3
jimmie Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 8,359 vCash: 1000	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 Hamils striking is AWFUL I dont wanna see this guy fight.
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06-25-2007, 04:37 PM	#6
Smith Monzon-like ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,985 vCash: 484	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 Bisping has this fight in the bag, heart takes you a long way in this sport! After he beats Hammill, he has to fight a fighter from 6-15 in the light heavy ranking though!
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06-25-2007, 06:28 PM	#8
Beebs Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,121 vCash: 1493	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 Really sort of a test for Bisping, Bisping by all accounts should win this fight, but it plays right into his weaknesses. Hamill is a tough wrestler, and Bisping is a small 205'er with bad takedown defense, so if he can get in there finish Hamill he will prove he is coming along as a complete fighter. Hamill has an outside shot of winning, he has pretty good wrestling and just sick strength compared to Bisping, but that appears to be all, but then again we haven't seen him in a long time, maybe he has picked up his game alot and will come out and get an upset. If Hamill manages a win he deserves a a renewed contract.
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06-25-2007, 06:44 PM	#9
Donut62 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 727 vCash: 1000	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 It should be interesting. Hamill will put Bisping on his back, unless Mike wonder punches him at the get go. Given that Hamil punches like someone who's handicap is blindess and not hearing, it's a possibility. If you remember from the footage we saw on TUF 3 Hamil was absolutely schooling Bisping in grappling practice, Mike was getting pissed because Matt would sprawl on him without using his hands and get takedowns using only one arm and putting the other behind his back. A smart build-up fight for Bisping. Hamil is a name because of TUF, he will put Mike in a new situation, and all the while he doesn't really pose a huge risk to derailing Mike with an embarassing loss.
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06-25-2007, 09:23 PM	#10
Strike Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Korea via Manchester Posts: 2,080 vCash: 1667	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 Is it me or does Bisping look like he could have much better take down defence if he did not get so excited? He seems to get hyped and controlled by his adrenaline, basically the total opposite of someone like Fedor. He cant help but look for bombs, lunge a bit and not set himself for takedown attempts. A tought fight, where he has to work his way to a victory without just landing a big shot could well be the best thing that happens to him for his career.
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06-25-2007, 09:49 PM	#11
Wilhelm Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Northwoods of Wisconsin, USA Posts: 1,442 vCash: 1000	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 Bisping is a pretty well rounded fighter, and he's good enough on his feet to knock out the wide open Hamil. I also think he's good enough to beat Hamil on the ground. Not overpower him, of course, but beat him. Hamil is totally one dimensional and has been lucky with who he has faced so far.
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06-25-2007, 09:49 PM	#12
J_Roth VRWC Hybrid Beaner ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Being superior to you is only the start Posts: 1,496 vCash: 2000	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 Interesting fight. Can't wait to see it.
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06-25-2007, 09:52 PM	#13
Tko4 Left high kick ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 2,285 vCash: 1000	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 I'm not that impressed with Bisping. And while Hamill's wrestling is nice, his strikings and subs are awful. This won't tell us much about either man, but I say Bisping wins via GnP in the third.
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06-26-2007, 12:34 AM	#14
Nuke Full Length Member ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Under the oppression of a tyrannical government. Posts: 2,430 vCash: 1000	Re: Bisping V Hamil UFC 75 Bisping by triangle choke in the first, after Hamil takes a few on the chin he takes mike down and gets subbed.
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