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View Poll Results: Do you think that Pac is taking performance enhancing drugs?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:28 AM   #751
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Default Re: i wouldn't have agreed to any blood tests at all

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farm,

although i agree, that posts is getting old.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:29 AM   #752
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Default Re: What's worse....

Obviously its dehydrating.

There actually isn't any issues with drug testing. In fact, there's an argument it's better.

With that said, I don't know if I've seen proof of Pac and rehydration clauses. Is this proven?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:29 AM   #753
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Default Re: The predict PBF's next outlandish demand thread

yes. mayweathers insist to ensure level playing field.

yeah. sure. like coming in at 146 for a 144 fight against a 36 year old lightweight.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:29 AM   #754
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Default Re: Give one good reason why manny shouldnt take the test before???

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And what steroid would this be? You guys blindly leave out all the urine test he's be given. What high grade Roid is he getting that won't leave a trail?
I'm also interested to know what drug, that will be caught mid-cycle, will show up on blood tests but not urine tests?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:29 AM   #755
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Default Re: Bottom line - this is all Pacquiao's fault.

Lol
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:31 AM   #756
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Default Test after the fight

8CN - Wouldn't a blood test the day after the fight be the same as a test a day before? I mean if Manny was taking steroids, wouldn't the test the day after the fight show the same thing as it would the day before?

FR - Yes agreed. A urine test will show the same thing too,but if they want a blood test the day after the fight, I have no problem with that. I will not have my guy giving blood a day before the fight, that will make him weak. Why is Floyd Mayweather dictating what we do in life? It's crazy... he's a coward and he's afraid to fight us and that is all there is to it.

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Old 12-23-2009, 03:31 AM   #757
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Default Re: What's worse....

making a fighter jump up 2 weight divisions then cheating him on the scales
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:31 AM   #758
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Default Re: The drug test Mayweather camp wants...

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Kid, you are talking to a 75 years old man. Anyway, you are talking about a contract now, when we are talking about a request which would supersede an established procedure (mandatory drug test). Why is he doing that? Will it make the fight more fair for both of them?
yes. he wants a level playing field. like coming it at 146 for a 144 fight against a 36 year old lightweight.

that is pbf history of fights.

like asking hatton to come up at 147.

damn crackhead *****.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:31 AM   #759
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Default Re: What's worse....

i just dont see what's so bad about what team mayweather wants....i mean, that should be a ****en rule for ****s sake....i know shit at vons that'll make you pass a ****en piss test.....
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:31 AM   #760
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i'll just join the "it will eventually happen" express.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:31 AM   #761
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Default Re: What's worse....

What is worse?

a) Team Pacquiao wanting to get the fight done the usual way?

B) Team Mayweather wanting to amend the commissions rules?

C) Team Pac and Team Cotto agreeing to fight at 145lbs?

D) Team Mayweather and Team Marquez agreeing to fight at 144lbs?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:32 AM   #762
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Default Re: Bottom line - this is all Pacquiao's fault.

It's funny how arum didn't see a problem with this demand. Pac is cheating he will be caught.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:32 AM   #763
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Default Re: For people who cannot see this - Pac drug testing

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Apparently you've missed the whole point. Team Mayweather wants the testing done right upto the days before the fight and this is where Team Pac differs. Team Pac says no testing the day before the fight, period and of story.
I get that. I'm saying that Team Mayweather chose 30 days to cover the whole spectrum of tactics. If Pac takes PED's during training, the test will catch that just as it would pre-fight.

When I read interviews with Roach who continually changes the subject away from blood testing to urine testing - something looks strange.

Have a read of this from the World Anti Doping Agency:

"When was a test to detect EPO implemented?
A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.

"In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO.

"This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents."
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:32 AM   #764
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Default Pacquiao could resolve this entire mess!

sorry to add yet another thread about this topic, but heres something relevant. If Pacquiao were to come out tommorow filipino time and address the media speaking his piece, maybe we can get some resolution here. As of now Arum is talking, Roach is talking, Schaefer is talking.....EVERYONE IS TALKING EXCEPT THE FIGHTERS!!!!!! If Pac were just to address the media, explain his worries, doubts, or lack thereof we can get far more progress than if we just let these talking heads continue to babble, anyone agree?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:33 AM   #765
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Default Re: Bottom line - this is all Pacquiao's fault.

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Well...what would YOU do????
Take the tests, earn myself 50 million dollars, and potentially place myself among the absolute best of all time.

Can't see how anybody would approach it in any other way... when acting reasonably.
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