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Old 09-30-2007, 12:47 AM   #31
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He told taylor to stop boxing and slug with pavlik. taylor should have dropped him like a bad habit 2 fights ago. how do you tell a fighter he is losing the fight when he just got done demolishing the guy in the 2nd round. taylor should have moved and boxed instead of listening to steward.

goddammit I just lost 3,000 dollars...Manny Steward you Son of a Bitch
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:48 AM   #32
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JT KP
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9 - 10
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10 - 9
10 - 9

after 6 rounds. i think Tailor looked snappier and was beating Kelly to the punch. The TKO came quick after a set of good punches

I don't agree.... I had it a draw at the time of the stoppage, or maybe Pavlik up by a round. His punches seemed to effect Taylor a great deal more than Taylors did him. Taylor was the quicker man, but I could see the punches accumulating and having a effect on Taylor, although I predicted the fight to be Taylor by UD.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:48 AM   #33
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Kelly was throwing more and harder punches, Taylors jabs were mostly blocked while Pavliks jabs were snapping Taylors head each time. PAvlik was the aggressor, pressing the action. Taylors punch stats were great because of the 2nd round where he threw everything but a kitchen sink at Pavlik and most connected.
JT head did not snap back b/c he hunches forward in his posture..so that right there you dont know what the **** you are talking about..JT was snapping pavlikes head back and brutalizing his body...
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:52 AM   #34
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JT head did not snap back b/c he hunches forward in his posture..so that right there you dont know what the **** you are talking about..JT was snapping pavlikes head back and brutalizing his body...
I would say his head snapped in the 7th enough
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:11 AM   #35
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Taylor said he thought he was losing the fight, period. Pavlik said he thought he was winning the fight. HBO had Pavlik winning the fight, so I dont what else to tell you. We all know how reliable boxing judges are.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:13 AM   #36
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Taylor's movement and athleticism was giving Kelly trouble, but as the fight progressed, he started to back him up more and land very hard, clean jabs.

Sorry about that 3,000!
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:14 AM   #37
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JT head did not snap back b/c he hunches forward in his posture..so that right there you dont know what the **** you are talking about..JT was snapping pavlikes head back and brutalizing his body...
Just watch the goddamn fight again and pay attention to Jermain Taylor and you will see how Pavliks jabs connect on him cleanly snapping his head back.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:16 AM   #38
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Well, guess you can comfort yourself with how "clean" Taylor's punches supposedly land, while Pavlik comforts himself with how hard his punches actually land.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:17 AM   #39
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He told taylor to stop boxing and slug with pavlik. taylor should have dropped him like a bad habit 2 fights ago. how do you tell a fighter he is losing the fight when he just got done demolishing the guy in the 2nd round. taylor should have moved and boxed instead of listening to steward.

goddammit I just lost 3,000 dollars...Manny Steward you Son of a Bitch
Yeah, he has given the better advice to Wlad, and helped him as well....but not this time:(
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:19 AM   #40
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Bigtime , you got burned twice. I remember how sure you were Miranda was going to destroy Pavlik. Did you bet money on that fight too?
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:33 AM   #41
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[quote=bigtime9]bullshot check the compu box stats pavlik thre more punches but landed less.




its obvious you saw what you wanted to see. I am glad the judeges were not as biased as you.



he was pressing the action and getting countered

BLABLABLA....Taylor fought his heart out, but got KTFO.
You lost some money....but wont you even show 1 shred of respect to Kelly Pavlik? Seriously watch it again..kelly blocked alot of punches and dodged some as well. It was close but at time kelly was winning the boxing portion of it...so he was controlling the action..backing taylor up the jab started to work its magic...and taylor got ktfo.

I have nothing but respect for taylor, he fought his ass off.

Question. What do you think of Kelly Pavlik now?
Pls dont act like Taylor whitewashed it and was ahead by 3 3 and 4 rounds some rounds were close but wtf.

did you even watch the fight. did you not see taylor countering pavlik with ease. he just ran out of energy like miranda. pavlik was in better condition so he won.

He countered very well IN SPOTS, its not like he coundered everything...shit some of his counters were ****ing blocked
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:36 AM   #42
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I agree pavlik won that fight on conditioning he was just in better shape. Taking nothing away from pavlik he deserved to win but I am mad at the advice jermain got in his corner. steward should have know he was gassed after the 2nd round.
Ok
I didnt read all the posts before i posted my above .

Still dont see how you can have the same card as that poster.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:37 AM   #43
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JT KP
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10 - 9
10 - 9
10 - 9

after 6 rounds. i think Tailor looked snappier and was beating Kelly to the punch. The TKO came quick after a set of good punches
In my opinion , that is way off the mark. You only gave him the round after the Kd?
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:38 AM   #44
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Steward's a scumbag, been one for a while now too.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:41 AM   #45
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JT needs to usehis brain, thats his damn problem. His boxing IQ is very low. And he will 4ever struggle in his fights if he doesnt start using his head. This fight was suppose 2 b over in the 2nd round. But Jermain wants to throw wild and smother his punches Damn Jermain
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