Prime Roy Jones V Kelly Pavlik @ 160

[cross_trainer]

Originally Posted by Marnoff

I need it explained to me how Pavlik wins this fight. Someone just explain it to me. Give me a fight breakdown, because I'm confused.

Pavlik hits Roy, and Roy falls down. Just like every other time Roy fought an opponent who could punch. Except for every fight except the Tarver fight. (which was quite exceptional).

[Fighting Weight]

7 people voted Pavlik???

[Mendoza]

Originally Posted by Fighting Weight

7 people voted Pavlik???

It matters not. Jones would never fight a guy like Pavlik unless Pavlik was well past his prime. A hungry fighter with toughness and a punch is Jones worst nightmare.

[McGrain]

Originally Posted by Fighting Weight

7 people voted Pavlik???

The first generation of boxing fans who haven't actually seen prime Jones i'd guess.

Shame.

Pavlik is losing 5 of 6, then he connects...Pavlik TKO6

[McGrain]

jesus.

[Fighting Weight]

Originally Posted by McGrain

The first generation of boxing fans who haven't actually seen prime Jones i'd guess.

Shame.

Yep, or Hagler, judging by the other thread.

Gotta feel sorry for them.

[Snakefist]

Originally Posted by cross_trainer

Pavlik hits Roy, and Roy falls down. Just like every other time Roy fought an opponent who could punch. Except for every fight except the Tarver fight. (which was quite exceptional).

WHY O GOD WHY do people simply ignore the 1st TARVER fight against ROY??? WHY? Did he NOT take all of Tarvers BEST shots? In that first fight. If he had a china chin he would've got KO'd in that fight, KO'd in the Ruiz fight because Ruiz DID connect from time to time and is a Heavy wieght with power, James Toney would've KO'd him because he connected at times, Hopkins would've KO'd him because he connected at times, Woods even would've KO'd him in the 2 second round because he got some good shots in during that round especially. Roy fought people with power at 168, 175, AND 200(!!) in his prime. You guys are stupid. Pavilik WOULD not KO roy in one punch, he can take a punch to some capacity. Glen Johnson fought a passed prime Roy who got pounded for 9 rounds straight, like getting hit way too much and it gets knocked down then the back of his head bounces off the mat to make it even worst. You guys act like the first Shot Johnson caught him with put him to sleep in the first round. You guys are stupid. Roy would devestate Pavlik so badly in his prime. Are you kidding me and he would KO him, Roy NOT ONLY had one punch KO power, BUT ALSO he would throw punches from different angles .. all power punches that are fast as hell.

COME ON NOW! This is a prime Roy we're discussing, Tarver would've been destroyed by a prime Roy. Jesus Christ if Taylor almost had Pavlik out what do you think a prime Roy would've done? James Toney would also destroy him.

[McGrain]

Originally Posted by Fighting Weight

Yep, or Hagler, judging by the other thread.

I mean Jesus. Pavlik's done shit all. He's beaten a suspect weight drained champ with a pretty good performance. He's wide open, his chin is only good and he has two good shots. He has to show three years of intangibles against decent competiton before i'll even consider him versus this kind of opposition.

[Fighting Weight]

Originally Posted by McGrain

I mean Jesus. Pavlik's done shit all. He's beaten a suspect weight drained champ with a pretty good performance. He's wide open, his chin is only good and he has two good shots. He has to show three years of intangibles against decent competiton before i'll even consider him versus this kind of opposition.

Agreed...but I'll be very surprised if he's still champion in 3 years time. It wouldn't be a great shock if Taylor won the rematch, should there be one.

[siassi8qvw]

I have a lot of respect for Pavlik, very solid fighter with a great attitude (Likewise for Jermain, two great sportsment, good for boxing). At any rate, Roy Jones would absolutely destroy Pavlik at 160. His dominant footwork and reflexes would throw Pavlik off and that blistering leaping left and straight right would catch Pavlik over and over until he was out of their. Roy at 160-168 was no joke, NO joke.
With that said, why compare Pavlik to Roy Jones? Pavlik will be a great fighter for years to come....everyone is talking Pavlik vs. Calzaghe or Kessler, but I REALLY want to see Pavlik vs. Sturm.

[Snakefist]

Originally Posted by McGrain

I mean Jesus. Pavlik's done shit all. He's beaten a suspect weight drained champ with a pretty good performance. He's wide open, his chin is only good and he has two good shots. He has to show three years of intangibles against decent competiton before i'll even consider him versus this kind of opposition.

He was ALMOST out from Taylor's shots in the 2nd round, out on his feet, if Taylor had put together his punches better, uppercuts and body shots, or measuring Palvik with a Jab so he can land a fully connected Right hand with leverage, then he would've KO'D him. Just THINK what Roy would've did who is VASTLY more gifted, VASTLY faster, and WHO hits much harder then Taylor from many angles. WTF? People act like this guy has Julian Jackson power and a gerald mcclellan chin or David Tua chin. Taylor had him out on his feet, Ouma has a better chin then him.

[McGrain]

Originally Posted by Fighting Weight

Agreed...but I'll be very surprised if he's still champion in 3 years time. It wouldn't be a great shock if Taylor won the rematch, should there be one.

I would too, though he might show us more yet.

I would only pick Taylor to beat Pavlik at 168, which is not impossible.

[El Bombasto]

roy jones in his prime was so fast, i think pavlik would probably only be able to connect with one or two punches......pavlik by ko

[Fighting Weight]

Agreed on the weight drain thing. Maybe if Calzaghe beats Kessler then Calzaghe V Taylor or Pavlik could be done. Wouldn't put it past Calzaghe to retire to avoid that though...