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Old 09-22-2007, 08:31 PM   #1
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in this interview, russel crowe says that angelo dundee rates kostya tszyu as the P4P best ever

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Old 09-22-2007, 08:34 PM   #2
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I've seen this before. I've never heard it elsewhere, but I don't think if you asked Dundee up front, he would respond with Kostya Tszyu.
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:50 PM   #3
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maybe not the best ever but easily better then floyd
Sorry no. Their resumes aren't comparable. PBF has beaten better fighters overall, never lost, won more titles, etc.
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:54 PM   #4
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maybe not the best ever but easily better then floyd
If PBF fought Tzu after the fight with gatti, and Tzu foght PBF after his fight with Zab. You are saying that Tzu would beat PBF?

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Old 09-22-2007, 09:00 PM   #5
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maybe not the best ever but easily better then floyd

You need to be smacked!
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:03 PM   #6
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sorry kostya beat better fighters and in there prime. Floyd fights big names when they are past it and over the hill.
And Floyds next fight is against the big name, past it, over the hill......

Tszyu was WAY over-rated due to his win over Judah that was a questionable stoppage in a lot of peoples minds, and Judah has been proven to be nothing special since then anyway, as has Kostya.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:10 PM   #7
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sorry kostya beat better fighters and in there prime. Floyd fights big names when they are past it and over the hill.
Really? Who....name the big names in their prime that Kostya beat.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:11 PM   #8
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I would be shocked if floyd could go twelve rounds with a prime kostya. Floyd strugled with old delahoya and many thought he lost open your eyes just because floyd looks like you.
There is no "many"...nearly every outlet scored it for PBF, actually every single one I have seen. A vast majority thought PBF won clearly....and KT got KO'd in his prime. You can't win this argument based on facts.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:17 PM   #9
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yes kostya crushed him and he was nothing after that and still floyd strugled for twelve rounds with him
No Kostya didn't crush him, it was a bad stoppage as I said. As I recall, Kostya was getting beaten up for the first 4-5 minutes of that fight, Zab got caught and no doubt Nady got paid

If it had gone on a few more rounds no doubt Kostya would have quit, like he did against Hatton. Best P4P ever? Nope.
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there is no argument kostya has too much for floyd end of story.


Next time you make a bold statement, you may want to come with something other than "cuz I said so".
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:23 PM   #11
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Tszyu was WAY over-rated due to his win over Judah that was a questionable stoppage in a lot of peoples minds, and Judah has been proven to be nothing special since then anyway, as has Kostya.
Unless Zab Judah is a schizophrenic it wasn't. Judah was ****ing out of it.

Questionable? Bullshit.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:24 PM   #12
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in this interview, russel crowe says that angelo dundee rates kostya tszyu as the P4P best ever

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He is one the top 20 ever, maybe even top 10.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:34 PM   #13
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Unless Zab Judah is a schizophrenic it wasn't. Judah was ****ing out of it.

Questionable? Bullshit.
Hatton fan, eh?
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:04 PM   #14
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Come on guys, this shouldn't be a discussion that anyone gets worked up about. Kostya Tszyu is not even close to being the best fighter ever.

Most reasonable people can agree that he is one of the top junior welterweights of all time. He has one of the best amateur records ever, beat a lot of good opponents, including fighters who were present or former champions, unified all three belts, etc. These accomplishments are nothing to sneeze at. But best ever? That is a damn high standard to be held to.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:09 PM   #15
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No Kostya didn't crush him, it was a bad stoppage as I said. As I recall, Kostya was getting beaten up for the first 4-5 minutes of that fight, Zab got caught and no doubt Nady got paid

If it had gone on a few more rounds no doubt Kostya would have quit, like he did against Hatton. Best P4P ever? Nope.

You recall wrong. It was a tentative first round, until Judah caught Tszyu with a very nice lead uppercut and maybe one or two more big shots until the round ended. Zab won that round no doubt. But the second round was all Tszyu's. Zab had absolutely nothing going for him that around, and then got knocked out by one shot. You lose credibility here by calling it a bad stoppage and being unreasonably biased against KT.

And by the way, Tszyu was 35 years old, out of his prime years, and in what turned out to be his last fight when he quit against Hatton. But all of a sudden, the consensus for what would happen if he was ever in a tough fight is that he would quit? You're making yourself look stupid, man.
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